VNugget
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- Dec 4, 2002
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Well, here is my situation. I graduated high school in 2001 (in San Jose, Calif.) and have been wallowing in community college without any clear plans since. I had the vague intention of transferring to a 4-year college to get a BS in computer science, but was never really serious or enthusiastic about it.
Recently, I made the realization that aviation will most definitely be my career. In the past week or so, I have been doing a ton of reading (especially this messge board) and learned a bit about the career paths that different pilots take. Like most of you, I have an incredible love for flying, and would be extatic if I end up doing ANYTHING up in the air for a living... all the way from dusting crops to flying "heavy metal" for the majors. (Well, maybe except for that cropdusting thing... it looks like fun but I hear the pay isn't so great. And I know not to expect anything to do with the majors anytime soon.)
I got all kinds of crazy ideas, about ERAU and such, but those quickly fizzed away, as my family isn't made of money. Now I have formulated some other plans, but more on that later.
From all the reading I've done, it seems that most people bootstrap their aviation career by CFI-ing (on the side of either going to school or working another job and living on ramen noodles, in classic starving artist fashion) to build up hours with which to move on to higher levels of the ladder. (ermm.. "branches of the tree" seems more appropriate.)
This is where my situation in particular comes into focus. I recently found out that a local community college, Foothill College, has an aviation program, and is in giving ground school classes for every type of cert -- up to and including ATP. In fact, I already signed up for PPL ground school next quarter (beginning Jan 6), which, for both quarters, will cost me exactly $42... much cheaper than any of the local FBOs. When that's done next summer, I will take the actual flight lessons, and fly often so as to spend less hours (meanwhile living at home and throwing all my cash from my part-time job, along with any needed help from my parents, into school and flying lessons). Up to that point, my plans are clear.
However, after that several decision trees open up.
1. I know for sure that I'm getting a 4-year degree, but now I am not sure which kind. When I decided to go for an aviation career, (and was initially thinking about ERAU) an Aeronautical Science BS seemed natural enough. However,it seems to be the opinion of many that aviation jobs do not care what kind of degree someone has, only that he has one that shows he can manage hard studying, and it is actally preferrable to get a non-aviation degree so as to expand your horizon and have a bit of a backup in case the worst happens. So, any insight into this issue? Either way, I will transfer to San Jose State and get a BS either in Computer Science or Aviation Technology there. I will not be making the transfer immediately, so I have some time to mull it over, but I'd like to start gathering insight now.
2. CFI. Unless someone here talks me out of it, it looks like I will take the "standard" path and start CFI'ing early on to a) build hours, b) learn more about flying, c) meet people in the industry and "open doors", and d) make some cash for school and flying. I don't know whether I will have yet transferred to San Jose State at that time, and I will still probably be living at home, since as I understand it, the CFI life (and aviation in general, nowadays) is very tough and I will NOT be able to bring in enough money to fully support myself. I become especially worried by looking at all the CFIs at RHV who have years and years and millions of hours of experience... how will I be able to compete with people like that for students? Now, as for my actual question: Should I get the CFI certificate as soon as possible and start instructing to make money for college and further training, or should I stick with my current part-time job and get a couple of ratings, such as instrument, commercial, and multi first so I have some more experience befor I start instructing?
Bah, well it seems I got caught up in my writing and already forgot half the questions I was going to ask, but I will post the rest as they clarify and come back to me. Anyway, if you have read this far and are able to answer some of my questions and/or give me some advice, I appreciate it a LOT
It would also be great if it just so happened that one of you lives in or around the San Jose/RHV area; maybe we could get together over a cup of coffee (or a flight yoke) and chat about flying.
Recently, I made the realization that aviation will most definitely be my career. In the past week or so, I have been doing a ton of reading (especially this messge board) and learned a bit about the career paths that different pilots take. Like most of you, I have an incredible love for flying, and would be extatic if I end up doing ANYTHING up in the air for a living... all the way from dusting crops to flying "heavy metal" for the majors. (Well, maybe except for that cropdusting thing... it looks like fun but I hear the pay isn't so great. And I know not to expect anything to do with the majors anytime soon.)
I got all kinds of crazy ideas, about ERAU and such, but those quickly fizzed away, as my family isn't made of money. Now I have formulated some other plans, but more on that later.
From all the reading I've done, it seems that most people bootstrap their aviation career by CFI-ing (on the side of either going to school or working another job and living on ramen noodles, in classic starving artist fashion) to build up hours with which to move on to higher levels of the ladder. (ermm.. "branches of the tree" seems more appropriate.)
This is where my situation in particular comes into focus. I recently found out that a local community college, Foothill College, has an aviation program, and is in giving ground school classes for every type of cert -- up to and including ATP. In fact, I already signed up for PPL ground school next quarter (beginning Jan 6), which, for both quarters, will cost me exactly $42... much cheaper than any of the local FBOs. When that's done next summer, I will take the actual flight lessons, and fly often so as to spend less hours (meanwhile living at home and throwing all my cash from my part-time job, along with any needed help from my parents, into school and flying lessons). Up to that point, my plans are clear.
However, after that several decision trees open up.
1. I know for sure that I'm getting a 4-year degree, but now I am not sure which kind. When I decided to go for an aviation career, (and was initially thinking about ERAU) an Aeronautical Science BS seemed natural enough. However,it seems to be the opinion of many that aviation jobs do not care what kind of degree someone has, only that he has one that shows he can manage hard studying, and it is actally preferrable to get a non-aviation degree so as to expand your horizon and have a bit of a backup in case the worst happens. So, any insight into this issue? Either way, I will transfer to San Jose State and get a BS either in Computer Science or Aviation Technology there. I will not be making the transfer immediately, so I have some time to mull it over, but I'd like to start gathering insight now.
2. CFI. Unless someone here talks me out of it, it looks like I will take the "standard" path and start CFI'ing early on to a) build hours, b) learn more about flying, c) meet people in the industry and "open doors", and d) make some cash for school and flying. I don't know whether I will have yet transferred to San Jose State at that time, and I will still probably be living at home, since as I understand it, the CFI life (and aviation in general, nowadays) is very tough and I will NOT be able to bring in enough money to fully support myself. I become especially worried by looking at all the CFIs at RHV who have years and years and millions of hours of experience... how will I be able to compete with people like that for students? Now, as for my actual question: Should I get the CFI certificate as soon as possible and start instructing to make money for college and further training, or should I stick with my current part-time job and get a couple of ratings, such as instrument, commercial, and multi first so I have some more experience befor I start instructing?
Bah, well it seems I got caught up in my writing and already forgot half the questions I was going to ask, but I will post the rest as they clarify and come back to me. Anyway, if you have read this far and are able to answer some of my questions and/or give me some advice, I appreciate it a LOT
It would also be great if it just so happened that one of you lives in or around the San Jose/RHV area; maybe we could get together over a cup of coffee (or a flight yoke) and chat about flying.