New Mailing from Leonidas,llc to USAIRWAYS East Pilots"

[xrated]

The West wants to come and occupy our land (clt and phl), our house (our cockpits) and take what they never had a claim to.

You better hope you don't get selected for a random drug test anytime soon, cause you're going to fail...BIG!!!

 

[vetrider]

The east thinks that just because they've been humored so far, it will always be so.

 

[becket]

The east thinks that just because they've been humored so far, it will always be so.

Yeah, as humorous as LOA93 Shoved up their tailpipes in perpetuity can be.

 

[reepicheep]

No it's true; Metrojet is right. Leonidas got hold of a bunch of old C-47's and recruited some guys from the 101st. They're training all the west guys in night jumps. Handing out clickers. June 6 is the day. PA & NC.

 

[charlie2]

Define "many widebody FO seats". Airways has the smallest widebody fleet of all the majors and it seems to give all the Easties a real H@rd on that conceivably, West pilots could move to 1/3 of those spots. I have yet to talk to any West pilots who give a Rat$ a$$ about commuting to PHL for that crap. Keep in mind the wide boddy fleet is so small, that most East pilots will never have the opportunity to fly them anyways.

While yes, under Nic, West may have a chance at 1/3 of the wide body seats, but the East will have a chance of 2/3's of the seats out West.

With DOH, and C&R's, the East wants it ALL!! That will NOT happen!!

We have almost 500 widebody FO's.

 

[Guppiedriver]

The majority of the airline pilots that I know would commute to a higher paying position...they owe it to their family to make more money. I have in the past and would in the future. I would even commute to ANC to be a wide body captain so my kid could go to a good college...wouldn't you? The higher paying jobs are in PHL and CLT and the nic award puts many PHX based pilots on those higher paying jobs.

Are you contradicting yourself? If you signed up for the Kirby Proposal + 8 to 10%, you would get a handsome raise and you wouldn't need to commute to get the bigger paycheck.

Don't you owe it to your family to get an easy raise?

 

[charlie2]

Are you contradicting yourself? If you signed up for the Kirby Proposal + 8 to 10%, you would get a handsome raise and you wouldn't need to commute to get the bigger paycheck.

Don't you owe it to your family to get an easy raise?

There's way more to a contract than pay rates and the Kirby thing is really bad.

 

[TWA Dude]

For those who are curious the brochure will soon be available on www.cactuspilot.com
The previous ones are there now.

Obviously not many Easties will read and comprehend the material yet the mailings serve another important purpose: they are a visual display of resolve (VDR). Rumors are constantly started on the East that the West is losing resolve or Leonidas is underfunded. These glossy, factual pamphlets mailed to their homes are a kick-in-the-face reminder to the East that the West will not lie down and allow the tyranny of the majority to steal what we're entitled to.

 

[charlie2]

I'll definitely read it like I did the last one.

 

[C Festerpuss]

It's a startin to look like them lenoarditis dudes has stepped in it.

There is a letter goin out that sez that a West pilot dune gave Leonarditis a spread sheet with Social Security numbers on it.

The company sez the is goin to buy lifelock security for all East piluts who is worried that they may have idenity iformation leaked.


The compeny has tole Lenoarditis that they kaint;

• use that information
• they has to destroy what they arleady has

The company has also:

• Apprpriate government agencies has been notificated
• Hired outside lawyers
• Put three US Airways pilots, one managment pilot and two others on administrative leave pending investigation.

Get yer hi-top boots on boys, its a gettin deep.

 

[charlie2]

It's a startin to look like them lenoarditis dudes has stepped in it.

There is a letter goin out that sez that a West pilot dune gave Leonarditis a spread sheet with Social Security numbers on it.

The company sez the is goin to buy lifelock security for all East piluts who is worried that they may have idenity iformation leaked.



The compeny has tole Lenoarditis that they kaint;

• use that information
• they has to destroy what they arleady has

The company has also:

• Apprpriate government agencies has been notificated
• Hired outside lawyers
• Put three US Airways pilots, one managment pilot and two others on administrative leave pending investigation.

Get yer hi-top boots on boys, its a gettin deep.

If it's true I hope they get fired. I don't mind them having my mailing address but having my ssn is going to far.

 

[TWA Dude]

There is a letter goin out that sez that a West pilot dune gave Leonarditis a spread sheet with Social Security numbers on it.

Unsubstantiated rumor.

 

[Guppiedriver]

There's way more to a contract than pay rates and the Kirby thing is really bad.

You said you would commute to PANC for a bigger check. Now you want better work rules too? Looks like you won't get either with USAPA.

 

[TWA Dude]

Unsubstantiated rumor.

I was wrong. Just read the letter from company lawyer confirming it. Leonidas didn't even know there were SSNs in their Excel files so they weren't accessed. Regardless, looks likes a couple of guys might get in trouble. Since their actions were well-intentioned I hope not.

 

[charlie2]

You said you would commute to PANC for a bigger check. Now you want better work rules too? Looks like you won't get either with USAPA.

I was thinking more scope than work rules. Kirby wants much more outsourcing and no minimum utilization rates which effectivley makes a fleet min meaningless. It doesn't matter what the name of the union is. This is a dysfunctional family with a long history of infighting when were ALPA so am I surprised there is infighting with the new union?

 

[Bringupthebird]

It's a startin to look like them lenoarditis dudes has stepped in it.

There is a letter goin out that sez that a West pilot dune gave Leonarditis a spread sheet with Social Security numbers on it.

The company sez the is goin to buy lifelock security for all East piluts who is worried that they may have idenity iformation leaked.


The compeny has tole Lenoarditis that they kaint;

• use that information
• they has to destroy what they arleady has

The company has also:

• Apprpriate government agencies has been notificated
• Hired outside lawyers
• Put three US Airways pilots, one managment pilot and two others on administrative leave pending investigation.

Get yer hi-top boots on boys, its a gettin deep.

There is no such thing as administrative leave (cops and other civil servants get that, not pilots) which should heve been your first clue that this was made up drivel.

Why would the company hire outside lawyers? They already have a number of firms on retainer!

Now go find another boogieman to satisfy yourself!

 

[MCDU]

A special 800 number for lifelock has been set up all for East pilots whose identity and SS have been compromised by some West Pilots. This is going to get expensive for the army of leotards once the lawyers get to work. 3 Westies suspended pending felony investigation.

M

 

[Rough67]

Www.cactuspilot.com


Today, USAPA released a letter from Cleary to Mr. Parker accusing a West pilot and Leonidas of several violations of federal law. You can read Cleary's letter here. The first sentence of the second paragraph in reads: "Notwithstanding these alarming developments, the Company has determined that neither the individual responsible for the theft nor those who received the stolen property will suffer any consequences." In other words, the company investigated USAPA's claims and determined that no action should be taken. We at Leonidas feel there is nothing else that needs to be said about USAPA's petty and needlessly divisive allegations.

Sincerely,

Leonidas LLC

 

[Turtle21]

Please do not attack the messenger, was there anything in the message that was false or misleading? Don't let the truth get in the way of your angry f/o life!

No attacks. You think I read it? Ha!

The ALPA Concerned Pilots Committee also sent me a boat load of mailings trying to convince me to vote in their favor. I never opened them either. Google the "ALPA Concerned Pilots Committee" to see what Leonidas will be in a year or two.

I hope Leonidas keeps sending out their mailings... maybe they could adopt a goat as a mascot/emblem.

 

[cactusboy53]

A special 800 number for lifelock has been set up all for East pilots whose identity and SS have been compromised by some West Pilots. This is going to get expensive for the army of leotards once the lawyers get to work. 3 Westies suspended pending felony investigation.

M

Marty;
You must have missed this VERY important point in Johnson's letter:

“..the social security numbers were discovered yesterday for the first time because that information was embedded and hidden in the spreadsheet in a way that was truncated, not labeled and required an unusual excel command for access. Although this is disturbing, the responsible persons at Leonidas have assured us that they did not know this information existed and our preliminary investigation suggests that no one at Leonidas discovered or accessed that information…”

So is USAPA going to sue Sears, Target, JC Penny, JC Whitney, Kroger's, etc. What a bunch of stinkin' crybabys...:bawling:. Hey! Maybe USAPA will fire up the critical incident repsonse phone lines for those that have gotten the pamphlet and are upset.

Here's a thought: Instead of throwing pamphlet 3 on the ground and stomping all over it....why don't you challenge yourself to read the content and TRY to prove any of it is a lie.

Click them ruby shoes, Dorothy. Kansas is just around the corner!!