New Emirates order....

[BILL LUMBERG]

Price? Plain & simple huh? Not sure the Italian bankers in the 1st class suites on our MXP-JFK agree but there you go.

On Sunday Dubai based airlines ordered 311 Boeing aircraft. Great for American jobs and great for Emirates pilots particularly FOs who don't want to wait 20+ years to LHS of 777/380.

Btw, why haven't you guys answered my DAL 777 DOH questions?



fv

LOLOLOLOL Italian Bankers??

Maybe ya got some Irish bankers or Spanish bankers and maybe some Icelandic Bankers and once they nosedive into insolvency, they can scrounge up enough cash for a ticket in coach.....

Oh and how do upgrades work over there? Go ahead and answer that? Out of Seniority? However the Canadian Check Airman feels that day?
Go ahead fill us in, when they will upgrade.....Kingfisher and Skybus had large plans too....until the wheels fell off.

 

[Andy]

LOLOLOLOL Italian Bankers??

Maybe ya got some Irish bankers or Spanish bankers and maybe some Icelandic Bankers and once they nosedive into insolvency, they can scrounge up enough cash for a ticket in coach......

Bill, I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one ROTFLMAO over fareview's statement.

 

[dicko]

Cheap labor! How many thousands of Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis legally work 12 hour shifts for "a sack of rice" in Dubai et al? Take a look behind the scenes, it ain't pretty.

Brutal isn't it ? It gets worse too - imagine people living below the poverty line, working sixteen hour days and relying on food stamps to feed their families.

New hire U.S. Regional F.O.

 

[dicko]

Italian Bankers??

Maybe ya got some Irish bankers or Spanish bankers and maybe some Icelandic Bankers and once they nosedive into insolvency, they can scrounge up enough cash for a ticket in coach.....

Maybe we should remember whose "bankers" led the charge into this recession. It was ours. I'm betting they still ride in Emirates first class suites on the way to Dubai. If they can't get a seat then they might slum it in a Delta lie flat. Not quite the same though. You know how they think.

Ask Boeing what their offer was to the unionized mechanics in Seattle last week - 'Dump the pensions or we build it elsewhere'. Wings built in Japan etc. None of these people give two flying fuks about pilots or anybody else for that matter.

Why carry their water for them ? This isn't about patriotism, this is about money.

 

[Green]

That sure will be a lot of planes flying within Africa! You WILL rule the skies there! Enjoy it! And, LHS living in the ME to Conakry is worse than RHS to Paris, while living in the US. Ask your pal TP---he's GONE, and he was initially your biggest and most well known advocate on this board and PPRUNE. The ME has just started to melt your brain, and it will continue until you leave.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Guess what General. Ek flies to Paris. As well as Nice and Lyon. We fly just about everywhere. Including Africa. Believe it or not some people become pilots to see the world. Not just a few destinations in Western Europe that you seem to prefer. But for the EK pilots who like that there are plenty of layovers to be had all over Europe. But I'm sure your astute logic will stop the EK expansion in its tracks. Can't wait to get my Antonov type

 

[General Lee]

Guess what General. Ek flies to Paris. As well as Nice and Lyon. We fly just about everywhere. Including Africa. Believe it or not some people become pilots to see the world. Not just a few destinations in Western Europe that you seem to prefer. But for the EK pilots who like that there are plenty of layovers to be had all over Europe. But I'm sure your astute logic will stop the EK expansion in its tracks. Can't wait to get my Antonov type

Thanks Green. You also get to see nasty cities like Khartoum, Conakry, all night India turns, and Lahore. The big thing for you is, you really have no say where you go. Did you see the complaining from the EK guys about schedules on PPRUNE? Talk about unhappy. You can try to bid, but there is no certainty. That sux for you. I am senior in my category, so I can pick and choose where I want to go. I saw a 6 day trip to Asia to ferry a plane out of Singapore. I got it. I go to Western Europe regularly, and got Rome next month. I even picked up a Quito, Ecuador because it was on the open board and I hear its interesting. At the same time, I can go to Las Vegas or San Diego if they pop into open time. Guess what? You can't. But wait, you will go there sometime in the next decade, even though the ME heat will have melted your brain by then.... Ennnn...joy it...



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[johnsonrod]

My dingle is bigger than your dongle! Typical FI thread creep and personal slams...

 

[jonjuan]

Brutal isn't it ? It gets worse too - imagine people living below the poverty line, working sixteen hour days and relying on food stamps to feed their families.

New hire U.S. Regional F.O.

Soooo, you support what's going on in the sand?

 

[jonjuan]

Guess what General. Ek flies to Paris. As well as Nice and Lyon. We fly just about everywhere. Including Africa. Believe it or not some people become pilots to see the world. Not just a few destinations in Western Europe that you seem to prefer. But for the EK pilots who like that there are plenty of layovers to be had all over Europe. But I'm sure your astute logic will stop the EK expansion in its tracks. Can't wait to get my Antonov type

Layovers in all of those places in Europe and yet they must dread going back "home" to the sand box. Must be "fun." All to claim being a widebody pylot. Are all the wives all-in regarding staying there for years on end? Gotta think many would desperately miss their families in the western world.

 

[General Lee]

Layovers in all of those places in Europe and yet they must dread going back "home" to the sand box. Must be "fun." All to claim being a widebody pylot. Are all the wives all-in regarding staying there for years on end? Gotta think many would desperately miss their families in the western world.

Well, when the pilots are out flying across the globe with loads of hotties, the wife and kids try to go for a walk, and not pass out due to the 110F heat, 98% humidity, and blinding dust and haze. Butttttttttt, at least the pilot gets to Skype back to Dubai from Tehran..... Fannnnntastic!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Gear Disagree]

First off, Tehran is a out and back, so no need to Skype.... GL please stop flame bating everyone. They bite on this type of stuff.

I do too after 17 pages of BS.

We stay because our wives are happy... I am trying to get out (I never intended to stay but the age 65 legislation in 2008 drove me to leave the RJ world in search of a better career), but my wife says she is happy to stay in Dubai. Not because she has a maid or BF here... but because I am HOME more than I have ever been in our lives together (She likes having me at home!!!). Our family life is phenomenal here. I am in my own bed at least 18 nights a month and there is loads of family stuff to do with our 3 kids here, but before you accuse me of drinking Kool-aide... I WANT to go back home. I never came out here with a career in mind, I came here with a five year plan just like many of my compatriots did. That plan included returning when guys started to retire again.

I am proud of the time, experience, and money I earned while I was flying to the likes of LOS, BGW, NRT, LHR, DMD, and SYD. These are not burdens in my logbook, rather, marks of the experience I received while flying as a Capt. in the 777. I EARNED left seat here at 32 and am quite happy to go back to the right seat of a DC9 on RSV and contribute my experience to your operation... but before you quote me like TP... know that if most of the guys I'll be working with at DAL (who I've wanted to work for since I was a child) are like you... I'll pass.. Grow up.

 

[fareview]

Delta is hiring but dont bother

we have no jobs available for EK pilots

The recruiters are watching


FT3

Well I hope for the interests of the previous poster who wants to go back - that's not true.

It would be ironic and sad considering Emirates put food on the table of so many furloughed major pilots over the years.

So the management who threw their pilots to the wolves will penalize employees of an airline who allowed DAL/NWA guys to pay their mortgages by giving them a job...while their company could not?

That's the spirit.

fv

 

[General Lee]

First off, Tehran is a out and back, so no need to Skype.... GL please stop flame bating everyone. They bite on this type of stuff.

I do too after 17 pages of BS.

We stay because our wives are happy... I am trying to get out (I never intended to stay but the age 65 legislation in 2008 drove me to leave the RJ world in search of a better career), but my wife says she is happy to stay in Dubai. Not because she has a maid or BF here... but because I am HOME more than I have ever been in our lives together (She likes having me at home!!!). Our family life is phenomenal here. I am in my own bed at least 18 nights a month and there is loads of family stuff to do with our 3 kids here, but before you accuse me of drinking Kool-aide... I WANT to go back home. I never came out here with a career in mind, I came here with a five year plan just like many of my compatriots did. That plan included returning when guys started to retire again.

I am proud of the time, experience, and money I earned while I was flying to the likes of LOS, BGW, NRT, LHR, DMD, and SYD. These are not burdens in my logbook, rather, marks of the experience I received while flying as a Capt. in the 777. I EARNED left seat here at 32 and am quite happy to go back to the right seat of a DC9 on RSV and contribute my experience to your operation... but before you quote me like TP... know that if most of the guys I'll be working with at DAL (who I've wanted to work for since I was a child) are like you... I'll pass.. Grow up.

If you consider flame baiting the truth, then I'm sorry. Whether or not you layover in Tehran isn't a big deal, it's that you have to go there, and these days that's not preferable. Neither is half of the crappy places around there, none of which really like Americans or the Govt.

You were a 777 at 32, huh? Impressive, but many questions arise reading that. There is a normal sequence of events that happen in the US to attain a position like that, which we all understand doesn't occur in other places around the World. That can be good and bad, like the recent crash in SFO. Attaining a position isn't always because you deserve it. Hopefully you did.

And, many back here in the States are like me, fun, entertaining, and likes to ask questions. I hear that is frowned upon over where you are. If so, and you agree, stay there.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Whip Whitaker]

And, many back here in the States are like me, fun, entertaining, and likes to ask questions. I hear that is frowned upon over where you are. If so, and you agree, stay there.



Bye Bye---General Lee

I've read many adjectives to describe you General Sherman, but fun and entertaining were not among them.

 

[8sugarsugar]

And, many back here in the States are like me, fun, entertaining, and likes to ask questions. I hear that is frowned upon over where you are. If so, and you agree, stay there.



Bye Bye---General Lee

^ hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[General Lee]

I've read many adjectives to describe you General Sherman, but fun and entertaining were not among them.

You must have lost continuous debates with me. If so, then I understand. Most of the EK guys probably feel the same way. It's tough to debate the truth. I actually find it entertaining.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[jonjuan]

Wow-sounds like some pretty pissed off crew members in the ME.
http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/515487-roster-disaster.html

"Profit share, salary steps and bidding system are only here for recruitment advertisement.

Once in, you will all discover that such things have no effect in EK reality."
And another:
"How about over 50 hrs in 2 weeks, leave for two weeks, no days Off before or after. Not top bid but not bottom either. Have leave and pay the price for it as clearly the leave credit is severely deficient.
Gents and ladies, Hello Tomorrow signifies just that, a paradigm shift towards increased rape and pillaging."

Also, who can afford to live there. Seriously, not making this up:
http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/526794-who-can-afford-living-dubai.html

Yikes-no thanks.

 

[Gear Disagree]

If you consider flame baiting the truth, then I'm sorry. Whether or not you layover in Tehran isn't a big deal, it's that you have to go there, and these days that's not preferable. Neither is half of the crappy places around there, none of which really like Americans or the Govt.

You were a 777 at 32, huh? Impressive, but many questions arise reading that. There is a normal sequence of events that happen in the US to attain a position like that, which we all understand doesn't occur in other places around the World. That can be good and bad, like the recent crash in SFO. Attaining a position isn't always because you deserve it. Hopefully you did.

And, many back here in the States are like me, fun, entertaining, and likes to ask questions. I hear that is frowned upon over where you are. If so, and you agree, stay there.



Bye Bye---General Lee

As I said in my previous post, I earned my seat. It is no secret that upgrades here do not work entirely on seniority. There is a vetting process and a rigorous set of hoops to jump through. We all have thousands and thousands of hours on heavy equipment when we get the call for command. Please do not imply that I'm unfit for my seat. The retired British Airways 744 skipper who did my final check didn't think so.

As for flight deck behavior... GL, you are welcome to conduct yourself as you please in my flight deck. No issues on my end. In fact, I'll let you throw gear for me anytime.

 

[8sugarsugar]

Wow-sounds like some pretty pissed off crew members in the ME.
http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/515487-roster-disaster.html

"Profit share, salary steps and bidding system are only here for recruitment advertisement.

Once in, you will all discover that such things have no effect in EK reality."
And another:
"How about over 50 hrs in 2 weeks, leave for two weeks, no days Off before or after. Not top bid but not bottom either. Have leave and pay the price for it as clearly the leave credit is severely deficient.
Gents and ladies, Hello Tomorrow signifies just that, a paradigm shift towards increased rape and pillaging."

Also, who can afford to live there. Seriously, not making this up:
http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/526794-who-can-afford-living-dubai.html

Yikes-no thanks.

PPRUNE is full of General Lee types who don't even work for Emirates....I see a much different picture than posted above

 

[Gillegan]

To paraphrase one of my favorite movies, "The more you post, the less intelligent you are." (I'll buy the beer for the first person who can name that flick)