New Delta Airbus Order

[Redtailer]

I don't usually post rumors, but a friend of a friend of my neighbors dog told me some interesting things.

Apparently Delta has not only placed orders for the A320/321, but the A330, A350 and A380 is a done deal with deliveries starting in 2014 for the narrow bodies and 2015 for the wide bodies.

I initially dismissed it, but considering the source and then poking around the Internet some things started popping out. Apparently during a lot of the recent upgrades to ATL room was made to accommodate the A380 to park on E concourse. Korean Air is the first scheduled to do it. What is interesting is that DL had to sign off on the PFC to pay for the project. If DL didn't want to pay for those upgrades they could have said no. Additionally, JFK terminal 4 where DL is moving in to exclusively will also accommodate the A380.

Take with a grain of salt, but this one might have legs.

 

[i fly boxes]

Of course delta had to sign off on it, how else would everyone else from sky team get their a380s in that terminal? Now delta 320s that are ten years old to feed those other carriers, that sounds right. I'm just joking around but I will be shocked and disappointed if delta gets 380s: there needs to be a us carrier that orders the 747-800

 

[johnsonrod]

Would not surprise me. Anderson is probably the best airline CEO out there and he is very strategic. Excluding the A350s which have not been built yet, perhaps he is picking up used A330s and maybe even some used A380s from Asian carriers that can't use them effectively (i.e., Thai and Malaysian) - he's a savy dealmaker who likes to refurb used airplanes...

 

[GogglesPisano]

I heard 10-20 A321's and 10 777-300's.

If Delta ever orders the A380, I, GogglesPisano, will post a picture of myself eating my Delta hat right here on FI. I promise.:blush:

 

[sniper]

Would not surprise me. Anderson is probably the best airline CEO out there and he is very strategic. Excluding the A350s which have not been built yet, perhaps he is picking up used A330s and maybe even some used A380s from Asian carriers that can't use them effectively (i.e., Thai and Malaysian) - he's a savy dealmaker who likes to refurb used airplanes...

Check Anderson's past , eastern mentors , Texas Air

 

[Dan Roman]

I heard 10-20 A321's and 10 777-300's.

If Delta ever orders the A380, I, GogglesPisano, will post a picture of myself eating my Delta hat right here on FI. I promise.:blush:

Be careful Googles, if it makes it to the internet it pretty much has to be true.......

 

[Quimby]

....Especially when someone mentions "done deal" and (insert airline name here) in the same sentence.

 

[LearLove]

It must be that "guy in the jumpseat" again that knows everything and has a "friend in the know". How come after flying 700 hours per year for the past 14 years I never get to meet either of these guys.

Next will be the long running "training dept guy" who saw the painted aircraft on the ramp at the factory waiting to be delivered. Management just wants to surprise us pilots. They love is that much.

 

[johnsonrod]

I heard they were also looking at some used Concordes to refurb.

 

[i fly boxes]

I heard they changed their minds and are getting 50 more 200s with 35 seats and 10 first class

 

[Sedona16]

Rumor from another board. 11 747-400 already agreed to with Boeing.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta-12347.html#post1357425

 

[johnsonrod]

Rumor from another board. 11 747-400 already agreed to with Boeing.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta-12347.html#post1357425

Anderson's going for the refurb again... Makes sense given previous used aircraft purchases... Will the type continue to be fenced off for the Delta legacy pilots or will all Delta pilots get to bid them as they arrive?

 

[Muskycat]

Anderson's going for the refurb again... Makes sense given previous used aircraft purchases... Will the type continue to be fenced off for the Delta legacy pilots or will all Delta pilots get to bid them as they arrive?

Only 5 year fences coming to an end soon.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

My bet is you'll see 777-300s picked up on the cheap from A380 buyers sending planes back, and so nobody's feelings are hurt, the 747 will be negotiated for higher pay scale (as it should be....from a South Guy) but like the above poster said, fences fall very soon.

I also bet A321s

 

[dalad]

My bet is you'll see 777-300s picked up on the cheap from A380 buyers sending planes back, and so nobody's feelings are hurt, the 747 will be negotiated for higher pay scale (as it should be....from a South Guy) but like the above poster said, fences fall very soon.

I also bet A321s

Fences come down Dec 31, 2014. It doesn't matter to me, any new wide body is fine.

 

[eaglesview]

THat's a silly fleet plan.......There are some new 787 just sitting around in IAH.

 

[nwaf16dude]

Man, the Delta rumors are flying wild these days. I hope at least one of the good ones is true.

 

[Diesel-9]

I have heard it is a deal on 747-400's, probably some A-321's also.

 

[xjhawk]

and yet not hiring-because they are so over staffed and have a better reserve utilization? tons of new planes and no hiring

 

[Redtailer]

and yet not hiring-because they are so over staffed and have a better reserve utilization? tons of new planes and no hiring

Hiring 50 per month indefinitely before end of 2014 just to cover 717/737-900 flying. More will be needed to cover retirements. That's from one of the base meetings.

 

[Lucky Strike]

We'll see ...not holding my breath though. They said we'd be hiring the last couple of years...only to push it off.

 

[1.3XVso]

Ask super pilot Djorgensson. He really wants to be DELTA's poster boy so he must know.

 

[Ridgeback]

Did someone say SKYMARK'S A380's ATL-NRT?

They applied to the US DOT for NRT JFK in early febuary...

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

A380s are not coming to Delta......Richard was busting on AFs birds and Skyteam having to fill them in the line check meeting.

FWIW

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

I spoke to two Delta(NWA) pilots on an overnight in Maui last week and they told me Delta was parking the 75's and 76's in the desert and getting airbus replacements soon. (they were not ahppy about it)

 

[GogglesPisano]

I spoke to two Delta(NWA) pilots on an overnight in Maui last week and they told me Delta was parking the 75's and 76's in the desert and getting airbus replacements soon. (they were not ahppy about it)

We are parking some 757's and 767's as they come up on heavy checks. Older 5500 series 757's from NWA, some older domestic 767's (which are always full) and some older South 757's. They are ostensibly being replaced by 100 737-900ER's but not on a one-for-one basis.

 

[General Lee]

I spoke to two Delta(NWA) pilots on an overnight in Maui last week and they told me Delta was parking the 75's and 76's in the desert and getting airbus replacements soon. (they were not ahppy about it)

Any 757 you see with winglets will supposedly stay (they invested in the winglets). 100 planes will leave and be traded one for one with new 737-900ERs, and those 100 will consist of older 757s, 30-40 older A320s, and some domestic 767-300s, all close to their cycle limits. There are rumors of A321s coming maybe, some used 744s, and an order for new 737s or A320s from the manufacturer before they switch to the NEO line, as long as they also take some used 50 seat RJs away too. Throw in 88 717s and 14 MD90s coming, and it looks like the training department may be busy.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Waylon]

When the AE comes out in March some time and since it's a 365 day bid. Will that show if any hiring will happen at the end of this year?

 

[Schwanker]

When the AE comes out in March some time and since it's a 365 day bid. Will that show if any hiring will happen at the end of this year?

It could give some indication, especially with the number of displacements (and where they come from) to fill the 717. I'm sure there will be other AEs before the 365 window is complete which will be telling as well.

 

[dicko]

Any 757 you see with winglets will supposedly stay (they invested in the winglets). 100 planes will leave and be traded one for one with new 737-900ERs, and those 100 will consist of older 757s, 30-40 older A320s, and some domestic 767-300s, all close to their cycle limits. There are rumors of A321s coming maybe, some used 744s, and an order for new 737s or A320s from the manufacturer before they switch to the NEO line, as long as they also take some used 50 seat RJs away too. Throw in 88 717s and 14 MD90s coming, and it looks like the training department may be busy.


Bye Bye---General Lee

So they're replacing higher paying airplanes with lower paying airplanes. With the exception being the A320. The numbers you've stated above shows 60 - 70% of the movement towards lower paying equipment.

Is that correct ?