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[bandit110]

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No punk kid would've survived night-freight in a Bandit like you did.

I'm a punk kid, I hope I survive.

 

[General Lee]

This kind of reminds me of the Skywest vote----most of the guys (52%) voted for expansion rather than new pay for the 70 seater. Now they think they will re-negotiate in 18 months, when in reality it will be the NORM in 18 months, and Skywest will state that they have to stay COMPETITIVE. The urge to upgrade will hurt a lot of people in the middle or at the bottom.(future hires)

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Airpiraterob]

enough of this...

accidentally hijacked the thread!...oops.
so on with the show!

its friday morning in a few hours.....lets hear whats new with the TA!

 

[BE90CPT]

Well here is the latest...

1. BB is throwing his hat into the political ring. He will be running for govenor of bot IN and CA. He said, "Why not run both just like I run my airline. Cheap, Cheap, Cheap." Asked for a reply Arnold Schwartzenneter said, "Bring him on, I'll be back."

2. The TA that is to be announced today has been postponed due to the fact that Dorothy is stuck in Kansas trying to locate both her bicycle and dog.

3. Also just released, the UAL deal between Air Whiskey and CHQ will be decided by a tug-of-war match between both companies managment. They were going to use mud wrestling but decided that BB was too good at slinging mud.

4. You folks will believe anything you read here... that was the entire purpose of this thread!!!!!

Have a great weekend!

 

[surplus1]

Remembering that a first-officer is an honorable position as well --- sometimes that takes a bit of work.

Defend your profession.

Nope, no work involved. Were it not for the expertise of my many FO's and FE's over the years, I probably wouldn't be here to bother you guys.

Except for the probationary year, the FO is not only a valuable but and essential member of the crew. NOTHING worth while can happen without him/her. This isn't a flight school, nor is it a PIC factory. An FO is a fully qualified and competent pilot (or he/she should not be in the seat). Compensation should not be less than 60% of the CA pay (in small aircraft like these).

A separate question for some of you:

WHY do you guys include perdiem in calculating your pay? Per diem is NOT compensation and it is NOT part of your pay. Per diem is the reimbursement of expenses (that your job requires you to incur). It should NEVER be included as "compensation" in your thinking. That is why per diem that does not exceed CONUS rates (domestic flying) is not taxable. It is NOT earnings, it is reimbursement. Don't upset that apple cart. It's not in your best interest.

Second - If your book rate is $20/hr, you can't possibly earn more than 20K in basic pay. Since your "guarantee" is not likely to be 83.3 hrs/mo, your pay will be less than 20K. Money that you get from other sources (like open time, which may be at premium rates) should be considered separately (you do special things to get it and it's not part of your basic pay). Whatever the "fair wage" is in your mind should equal the rate x guarantee hours x 12. That is what you "know" your minimum gross will be and the acceptable rate should be determined accordingly.

Here's hoping your TA will be stellar whenever you get one.

PS. For what it's worth the Federal Govt. places the poverty threshold at $18,400 per annum (and does not presume that your permanent residence is a crash pad).

 

[jdog78]

New Poll

Who thinks BE90CPT likes to take it up the a$$?
Yes?
No?

Dude, I hope you enjoyed getting your tiny little nuts off on that one. There are CHQ pilots and flight attendants who (used to)view this board as a legitimate source of infomation and some clown like you comes along and passes on some $hit like that. Get a life.

-j

 

[Strikefinder]

Well, again, to play the devil's advocate, my per diem is a part of my compensation, at least according to the federal government, as I never do overnights if I can avoid it. I understand that's not true for anyone, but I can easily pack a lunch (and often do) and not spend a penny on living expenses outside of base. While I understand both your point and the concept, the reality is that there are a lot of jobs out there where you don't get paid a per diem, and I was gone just as long or longer from home. To be fair, it should be at least acknowledged, and differences in per diem need to be addressed as well. In any case, I included the fact since nobody had set criteria for the number that was quoted, and I wanted to make sure there were no illusions about the numbers that I came up with.

If you want the numbers, just for grins, my total per diem for this year so far is $1664.84, of which $892 is non-taxable. I estimate I'll see another $810 taxable dollars this year, making my total per diem take about $2400. You may adjust my quoted numbers accordingly.

Setting all of this aside, I think it's a pretty moot point to argue about what an FO is worth. It's easy to say that we're all worth $50,000, quoting training and experience as the rationale, but the system doesn't work that way. If every other carrier pays their first officers $21 an hour, "fair", in my book, falls pretty close to that number. If you can get $22 or $23, then great. You're not going to see $35, at least not right away. At the same time, $19 is not fair. As was said in another thread, if Chautauqua achieves a pay scale that is competitive with, say, ComAir, then ASA and CoEx can use us as an example when they go to negotiations. The Chautauqua group has refused and continues to refuse a slide, like many criticize Mesa for doing.

That said, I'm a capatalist, and I know what something is worth doesn't necessarily have anything to do with its cost. Tell the same thing to the computer programmers who I keep seeing in the newspaper who used to make six figures and are being replaced by foreigners who make a third or less of what they did. If you think you can start up an airline and pay your employees twice what everyone else does and still make money, let me know, and I'll apply tomorrow.

 

[FlyingDawg]

Actually I have gotten paid for more than 1,000 hours of flying the last 2 years. If you get paid block or better and you under block that allows you additional flying hours. I average 4 to 5 hours under block every month. In addition I get paid 4 hours per day of vacation I use. I acquire 5.67 hours per month in my vacation bank, allowing me 68 hours per year over the 1,000 hour mark. In addition I get paid for training that doesn't count toward my yearly flying (another 20 hours/year).

The grand total for last year was 1112.3 hours of pay.

Flight pay 1038.7 hours (flew 987.1 + 51.6 under block)
Training 20.0
Deadhead 13.6
Vacation 40.0

 

[TWAACHQPeon]

BE90CAPT,

So just what qualifies you to speculate on our yet to be announced TA? Please qualify yourself. You don't appear to work for CHQ. NO details have been released--only rumors.

How can you possibly come on this board and pretend to know something no CHQ employee knows? It's *#@%*!'s like you that make these boards such a sham. The ONLY reason I bother with coming to this site is because 1. I'm sitting on reserve and am bored beyond belief and 2. I'm an optimist-I keep thinking somebody will one day post something intelligent.

But, I'm just a PEON.

 

[whosyodaddy]

Furloughed CHQ pilots???

Did CHQ furlough pilots not too long ago? And if they did, have they been called back yet or expect to be called back soon?

 

[TWAER]

Like I sais last week. The new TA was officially made public today. Detail to be give on road show next week. Yes we furlough and it is my understanding that they will all be back by Nov. 1 2003. Also look for major hiring over the next year or so. Again, this is not rumor. And yes I do work for CHQ and all of the info I have received has been 100% accurate up to this date and time.

 

[Chairman]

25K you really under value your worth. Even a single guy can't live on that at least on the west coast not to mention if you are trying to support a family

 

[ERJPimp]

Quit bashing

We have a TA, details tomorrow. One company, one list is the rule at Repulic Airways holdings/CHQ/Republic

 

[PilotRon]

BE90CPT.

You were correct on alot of your original statements. You must know something we do not.

Anything else to add?

Why the second post? Are you covering up for speaking out of turn?

Comments?????