New Cargo Company

[B190Captain]

Gotta tell you guys and gals, I think we're going for a ride here. If we're not going for a ride, then good luck to ya' kid, you've got some good ambition, but maybe a little too much business sense for a 16 year old. I'm still not buying.

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Thats what they said about Bill Gates. He discovered his interest in software and began programming computers at age 13.

Good Luck kid!!

 

[061984]

Sounds like a plan. Whats your address? I'll send ya a resume.

 

[upndsky]

I normally don't bite for this kind of stuff but the wife's at work and there's nothing on tv, so...

There are no answers to your questions, kid, at least none you are going to find here. Take the cost of a hangar. There are hundreds, if not thousands of variables that will determine that: size, location (JFK vs some backwater airport), construction materials, land lease rates, the list goes on.

And to raise $400 million takes some business acumen, of which you have none. If you did, you would know that with few exceptions aviation companies have a history of losing money. In other words, if you somehow did come up with the cash, the LAST thing you'd want to do is invest it in a brand new air freight company.

Come back when you're about 6 to 10 years older and have some real life experiences and a college degree under your belt. Right now, you need to turn off your computer and try to figure out how you're going to score with that cute chick that's in your class.

 

[waspe]

I do agree with you. Airlines definately have history of not being so good. Tourism basicly rules the industry, and without people flying Airline makers have a rough time.. thats what is happening to Boeing now. However, since the early days of the United States we have been the shippers. It started with slow huge cargo boats, then to Fast lean big clippers, there will always be things to ship, and if I do own an Air Freight company, I will probably Pray every day, to computer makers in india. They will allow me to ship lots of computer parts, and with the market constantly changing, this will allow me lots of business, shipping the newest computers. Also, I will not just work for the United states, I will be shipping things to Canada, and to other countries, there are million of things that need shipping, along with thousands of businesses that go along with the shipping aspect that can increase the value of the company and make us more economically stable. The best point would be, when my whole company can survive on every different branch of the company, and the extra special shipping generates the huge profit.

I do agree with about the passenger airplanes being not such a hot investment, because they can fluctuate so quickly, and you need fast money to keep up with the high maintence to cost ratio. I do think shipping is a suitable way to, and the United States DOES have a history of being the best and fastest shippers in the world (at least in this old book i read, about clippers).

06198, Once, I figure out my expense chart, and my group of friends finds it economically feasible, I will post the address. If we need to do modifications, we will see where it leads. It might not turn into a shipping company right away either. As mentioned before 400,000,000 USD happens to be some big bucks.

Upndsky, I know exactly what I want to majior in and everything. Next year I will start my freshamn Year of college and Senior year of High School at the same time. Then I will begin my Bachelors degree in Physics and Finance. After I recen my Bachelors degree form Umass Amherst, I will attempt to get My Masters and PHD degree in Physics and Finance from Cambridge University England. If I can't get to Cambridge, I will find another one.

About that girl in my class, I have learned to take a slow become friends first, and then move on. I am kindof glad too, this girl that was whicked hott, and was definately going for her, but I found out she does pot. I don't want, in my life. So I am still searching, Maybe I will try a Senior girl though.. there are some of those hotties in my class. So I think I will take your Advice Upndsky. =)

 

[Gulfstream 200]

wow.

When I was 16 I was standing outside package stores trying to get someone to buy me and my buddies a case of beer so we could get some chiks drunk and hopefully touch some boobies.

guess there is a reason I am working for the trillion dollar companys, not running them.....

so sad.

 

[flybrowntails]

This guy is full of sh!t---

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Why don't you look up Mr. Fred Smith in the phone book? Give hime a call and I am sure he'd love to deal with you!!
All you'll have to do is come up with a worldwide half-day delivery program! Thats right, you'd be flying the retired Concordes!

Funny thread, really!

 

[Steve]

About that girl in my class, I have learned to take a slow become friends first, and then move on. I am kindof glad too, this girl that was whicked hott, and was definately going for her, but I found out she does pot. I don't want, in my life. So I am still searching, Maybe I will try a Senior girl though.. there are some of those hotties in my class. So I think I will take your Advice Upndsky. =)

First off, only squares call it pot. Second, if weed is what makes her happy.......

 

[TonyC]

Upndsky, I know exactly what I want to majior in and everything. Next year I will start my freshamn Year of college and Senior year of High School at the same time. Then I will begin my Bachelors degree in Physics and Finance. After I recen my Bachelors degree form Umass Amherst, I will attempt to get My Masters and PHD degree in Physics and Finance from Cambridge University England. If I can't get to Cambridge, I will find another one.

I don't know about your High School, but Amherst has standards of admission.

Applying to Amherst

We take great care to review every application thoroughly. Each is read by at least two admission deans before being presented to the Admission Committee for discussion. We pay closest attention to your:

* secondary school transcript;
* standardized tests: the SAT I and three SAT II exams OR simply the ACT;
* teacher and counselor recommendations;
* quality of writing as demonstrated in your essays, testing and recommendations;
* extra- and co-curricular involvements and talents.

As one might expect, Cambridge also has entrance standards. (By the way, most Americans don't realize Cambridge is not really a university in the sense that we usually expect. Rather, it is loose confederation of faculties, Colleges (31 in total), and other bodies that happen to be located in the town of Cambridge. )

Cambridge Graduate Studies Entry Requirements

All applicants are normally expected to hold or to be about to achieve:

* at least a 2i honours degree from a UK university
* an equivalent standard from an overseas university (in the US system a CGPA of at least 3.5/4 is normally required)
* a fluent command of the English Language (see below)
* completion of any current training or education course
* release from your current institution for the duration of your study (if you are coming to Cambridge as a visitor).

Some faculties and departments may require you to take other tests such as the GRE. Where this is required it will be stated clearly in the application information for each course.

Good luck.

 

[WrightAvia]

All your packages belong to us

If you start an air cargo business, UPS and FedEx will squash you like a bug. The market share for cargo is already being handled by some pretty big players and they are BORG. You will be assimilated.

 

[waspe]

Tony C, Say for instance I went to a in state community college before hand, and did my freshman year, and got all a's and B's, would that hold a lot more weight then the tests. Also, You mean I have to take 1 SAT test and 3 SAT II tests?

WrightAvia, I understand , and that actually worries me. However, I think I have away around it. Also, Prices rule, If I can lower my prices to be lower or match fedex and UPS and still make a profit, I have a chance. I am not sure about Concordes or anything, but Half day shipping could be edg, if you can fix Concordes to be Freight instead of passenger.

However, you are right, But the only there would be no competion like that is if I created a whole new product, or modified the product just enough to get the markets interest.

I definately take this into deep consideration. There are probably still contracts to be made though, and if worst comes to worst, I can get hired to work my planes for Fed EX and Ups, until I get enough reputation and money to fly solo.

 

[TX_DFW]

I agree with WrightAvia. Kid best of luck but you won't be able to start a company and compete with the big boys.[ I.e. UPS, FEDEX, DHL] They will put you out of buisness like walmart has done to all of the mom and pop stores. Your best bet is to find a new niche in the market or just invest your money and donate some to poor pilots like myself.

 

[TonyC]

Tony C, Say for instance I went to a in state community college before hand, and did my freshman year, and got all a's and B's, would that hold a lot more weight then the tests. Also, You mean I have to take 1 SAT test and 3 SAT II tests?

waspe,

In the first place, and to answer your question directly, NO. The admission standards at a quality university such as Amherst will not be relaxed because you are able to do well at a community college. (Yikes. Did I just say "well"? I dare say, a "B" at a community college would scarcely be considered "doing well" in the eyes of Amherst.)

In the second place, if you are really about to begin your senior year in high school, and you have aspirations of attending a college, you shouldn't have to seek advice on admissions from THIS forum.

In the third place, and to be less subtle in making the point I attempted to make in my previous post, you need to learn our language to be taken seriously. Yes, you have to learn to spell. Yes, you have to learn and apply the conventions of grammar and punctuation. If the quality of your essays and tests are anything like the quality of your posts, you should expect to never progress beyond that community college. Your posts are replete with spelling and grammar errors, and I really don't have the time or inclination to point them out. Suffice it to say, you need to forget about cargo for a while and work on English.

 

[Sig]

I have a business model that simply bypasses the entire cargo system.

We all become agrarian syndicates, and shun the burdensome allure* of worldly goods and services... thereby rendering all cargo business models moot. I feel that you should give me the $400,000,000 e13 for this idea, which is a sum that apparently is attainable via a bake sale on your planet.

Concordes?

Seriously- if you really want to break into the game, you can't play by the big boys' rules- you have to well and truly change something fundamentally. For example, price-wars are self limiting; they are more of a short term gimmick than a contingency for a business model. You'll have to come up with a genuinely fresh paradigm.

*I spelled this "alllure" originally. I'm a 'tard.

 

[TxPilot0878]

Couple of Questions?

Waspe,

Somebody with pockets as deep as yours would never consult a bunch of guys foaming at the mouth for "perverbial carrot," you are offering/advertising.
Secondly how did you find this site? And what were your first 2 choices, because I know this wasn't #1...if it was then you will never make it.
Pilot's view very seldom coincide with Upper Level Managements....we will work with you,...but c'mon; if you want advice....I figure a minutes worth of your time is worth around $1,500-$3,000 bucks! Why not conspire with a specialized, gung ho penny pinching group that will make you Fred Smith wettest dream 25 years down the line.
I really don't think anyone buys this line of BS....if they do their penny was definitely wasted!
Guys I would never bash somebody that was obviously oblivious to certain aspects...and truly trying to understand and become somewhat competent about this industry...but some part of our pathetic managing buttons...barely keeping current lives has to scream out..."Something doesn't add up!"

Skeptic