New Cargo Company

[flybrowntails]

This guy is full of sh!t---

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Why don't you look up Mr. Fred Smith in the phone book? Give hime a call and I am sure he'd love to deal with you!!
All you'll have to do is come up with a worldwide half-day delivery program! Thats right, you'd be flying the retired Concordes!

Funny thread, really!

 

[Steve]

About that girl in my class, I have learned to take a slow become friends first, and then move on. I am kindof glad too, this girl that was whicked hott, and was definately going for her, but I found out she does pot. I don't want, in my life. So I am still searching, Maybe I will try a Senior girl though.. there are some of those hotties in my class. So I think I will take your Advice Upndsky. =)

First off, only squares call it pot. Second, if weed is what makes her happy.......

 

[TonyC]

Upndsky, I know exactly what I want to majior in and everything. Next year I will start my freshamn Year of college and Senior year of High School at the same time. Then I will begin my Bachelors degree in Physics and Finance. After I recen my Bachelors degree form Umass Amherst, I will attempt to get My Masters and PHD degree in Physics and Finance from Cambridge University England. If I can't get to Cambridge, I will find another one.

I don't know about your High School, but Amherst has standards of admission.

Applying to Amherst

We take great care to review every application thoroughly. Each is read by at least two admission deans before being presented to the Admission Committee for discussion. We pay closest attention to your:

* secondary school transcript;
* standardized tests: the SAT I and three SAT II exams OR simply the ACT;
* teacher and counselor recommendations;
* quality of writing as demonstrated in your essays, testing and recommendations;
* extra- and co-curricular involvements and talents.

As one might expect, Cambridge also has entrance standards. (By the way, most Americans don't realize Cambridge is not really a university in the sense that we usually expect. Rather, it is loose confederation of faculties, Colleges (31 in total), and other bodies that happen to be located in the town of Cambridge. )

Cambridge Graduate Studies Entry Requirements

All applicants are normally expected to hold or to be about to achieve:

* at least a 2i honours degree from a UK university
* an equivalent standard from an overseas university (in the US system a CGPA of at least 3.5/4 is normally required)
* a fluent command of the English Language (see below)
* completion of any current training or education course
* release from your current institution for the duration of your study (if you are coming to Cambridge as a visitor).

Some faculties and departments may require you to take other tests such as the GRE. Where this is required it will be stated clearly in the application information for each course.

Good luck.

 

[WrightAvia]

All your packages belong to us

If you start an air cargo business, UPS and FedEx will squash you like a bug. The market share for cargo is already being handled by some pretty big players and they are BORG. You will be assimilated.

 

[waspe]

Tony C, Say for instance I went to a in state community college before hand, and did my freshman year, and got all a's and B's, would that hold a lot more weight then the tests. Also, You mean I have to take 1 SAT test and 3 SAT II tests?

WrightAvia, I understand , and that actually worries me. However, I think I have away around it. Also, Prices rule, If I can lower my prices to be lower or match fedex and UPS and still make a profit, I have a chance. I am not sure about Concordes or anything, but Half day shipping could be edg, if you can fix Concordes to be Freight instead of passenger.

However, you are right, But the only there would be no competion like that is if I created a whole new product, or modified the product just enough to get the markets interest.

I definately take this into deep consideration. There are probably still contracts to be made though, and if worst comes to worst, I can get hired to work my planes for Fed EX and Ups, until I get enough reputation and money to fly solo.

 

[TX_DFW]

I agree with WrightAvia. Kid best of luck but you won't be able to start a company and compete with the big boys.[ I.e. UPS, FEDEX, DHL] They will put you out of buisness like walmart has done to all of the mom and pop stores. Your best bet is to find a new niche in the market or just invest your money and donate some to poor pilots like myself.

 

[TonyC]

Tony C, Say for instance I went to a in state community college before hand, and did my freshman year, and got all a's and B's, would that hold a lot more weight then the tests. Also, You mean I have to take 1 SAT test and 3 SAT II tests?

waspe,

In the first place, and to answer your question directly, NO. The admission standards at a quality university such as Amherst will not be relaxed because you are able to do well at a community college. (Yikes. Did I just say "well"? I dare say, a "B" at a community college would scarcely be considered "doing well" in the eyes of Amherst.)

In the second place, if you are really about to begin your senior year in high school, and you have aspirations of attending a college, you shouldn't have to seek advice on admissions from THIS forum.

In the third place, and to be less subtle in making the point I attempted to make in my previous post, you need to learn our language to be taken seriously. Yes, you have to learn to spell. Yes, you have to learn and apply the conventions of grammar and punctuation. If the quality of your essays and tests are anything like the quality of your posts, you should expect to never progress beyond that community college. Your posts are replete with spelling and grammar errors, and I really don't have the time or inclination to point them out. Suffice it to say, you need to forget about cargo for a while and work on English.

 

[Sig]

I have a business model that simply bypasses the entire cargo system.

We all become agrarian syndicates, and shun the burdensome allure* of worldly goods and services... thereby rendering all cargo business models moot. I feel that you should give me the $400,000,000 e13 for this idea, which is a sum that apparently is attainable via a bake sale on your planet.

Concordes?

Seriously- if you really want to break into the game, you can't play by the big boys' rules- you have to well and truly change something fundamentally. For example, price-wars are self limiting; they are more of a short term gimmick than a contingency for a business model. You'll have to come up with a genuinely fresh paradigm.

*I spelled this "alllure" originally. I'm a 'tard.

 

[TxPilot0878]

Couple of Questions?

Waspe,

Somebody with pockets as deep as yours would never consult a bunch of guys foaming at the mouth for "perverbial carrot," you are offering/advertising.
Secondly how did you find this site? And what were your first 2 choices, because I know this wasn't #1...if it was then you will never make it.
Pilot's view very seldom coincide with Upper Level Managements....we will work with you,...but c'mon; if you want advice....I figure a minutes worth of your time is worth around $1,500-$3,000 bucks! Why not conspire with a specialized, gung ho penny pinching group that will make you Fred Smith wettest dream 25 years down the line.
I really don't think anyone buys this line of BS....if they do their penny was definitely wasted!
Guys I would never bash somebody that was obviously oblivious to certain aspects...and truly trying to understand and become somewhat competent about this industry...but some part of our pathetic managing buttons...barely keeping current lives has to scream out..."Something doesn't add up!"

Skeptic

 

[Xfr8dog]

OK you're looking for one (1) airplane to start your business and I really think it should be a Lockheed Constellation. Youre talking about going into business against Fed-ex, UPS, etc. and this one airplane would Out-SEXY them to beat the band. You have money you said... and this would make thier mojo very 3 inches if you know what i mean....
Look out Freight World! This child is HOT!

PS, I'll come fly that sexy beast for a mere 45k/year. PM me and I'll send you my resume.

 

[Draginass]

Go to college, major in business.

Get a job with an air freight company to learn the business well.

Then consider starting a biz.

 

[210FR8DOG]

Gulfstream 200- I thought I was the only one that did that!!!! That was freakin hilarious!!!!

 

[FR8dognit]

Don't forget about buying all of that Prop Wash. That stuff is pretty expensive too.

 

[belchfire]

It's too late for the boots, save the
watch!

Even with $400M, you won't be able to
butt heads with UPS, Fedex, DHL, or
maybe what is left of KittyHawk...why?

You don't have the contracts, ground equip,
or any established routes/infrastructure
established. UPS operated as a ground
only operation, then leased aviation
services before starting their own flt dept.

You do have an idea...which is exactly
where the aformentioned outfits were
back in the dark ages. Problem is it
ain't new, and there are a bunch of
people doing it in every type of A/C
conceivable.

You need to come up with how your new
company will do things so much better
that you can get an edge, and figure out
what you are trying to do before you go
looking for an aircraft type. What market
do you want to get into? Non aligned?
On demand? Schedualed and integrated?

 

[waspe]

TxPilot0878, I checked around for sites, I picked a few and this is one of them. I am trying to get a business going, part of being in business is to know your business. Air Freight isn't anything without it's planes, Pilots, mechanics, probably better then anyone, except possibly the engineer.

I am really am trying, I went to Umass Amherst yesturday and got a few books out on Air Freight. I am going to start making an expense chart for what exactly I need. Then formulating an Income chart.

I never said I was expert in this feild, and am trying to learn as much as possible.

Now, a number of you said Fed Ex and UPS will blow you out of the water, and you need a nitch. Well **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** straight I do. So I will be looking for a nitch, through customer service, calling up different companies, and asking what they would like to see out of UPS and Fed Ex, and also talking to a fe of my friends as well.

Now, I was more concerned with costs and finances and stuff, but I guess your right blechfire, it is definately time for me to figure out what I want to ship. I was thinking computer parts, and honestly, I never put a damper on anything. However, I wouldn't go looking for anything, like shipping packages to grandma (like Fed Ex and UPS), I was thinking more company or government shipping, but I would not be against shipping some of UPS's things if they ran out of room on a certian flight or something, as long as it was worth my time.

Also, I was thinking of nitches, and Half day shipping seems decent, but I definately need better, as you guys mentioned. I have people working on this as we speak.

Contracts and stuff all go through agents now, but I was going to try to get back in touch with businesses, call them up and ask if we could ship there things and negotiate something.

This part of the business is really kindof fuzzy to me, but I figured it would be polite and such to call up, directly instead of working through an agent. However, i would for some odd jobs. I am not totally positive. However, I know it goes into detail on this in those books I have so I will read them. However, until then I would be ahppy to hear anything you would like to say about this subject and about air freight in general.

TonyC, I know a spell bad, and have bad grammer online, it is because I am on the run a lot back and forth from places, but in school, I definately do not spell like this, and I actually reread what I right in school, and do grammer checks and spelling checks.

 

[cruxx@9]

xfr8dog, can I fly that connie with you?

Hey kid, the best advice that came out of here is go to school, read about Mr. Smith and go from there. FedEx almost didn't make it except for some really shaddy deals...and he was the first to do it in airplanes for the most part. If you got a better idea than Fred's, you better be really well funded.

If you really want to know more about this industry try to get an internship with a freight company. There is a lot of competion out there in all aspects (scheduled, on demand, charter...etc.)

Get a summer job at some frieght company, that is your best bet.

 

[flybrowntails]

just to restate and not loose sight of the issue:

This guy is full of sh!t!!

 

[Flywrite]

What the heck is this "nitch" thing this kid keeps talking about looking for? Is it some kind of furry animal? Or perhaps it's some new hip-hop thing?

I'm puzzled...


As for the freight thing...find your niche and I'm sure you'll be a billionaire in no time.

 

[LJDRVR]

I still think you're an adult "funning" us but in case you are for real, allow me to provide you with some advice. (Worth what you paid for it.)

I was going to say polishing your communication skills and completing your education should be your priority, but I've re-read your posts and my question to you is this: Is English your second language? If so, I think I understand your situation much better. (And please ignore my next paragraph)

If English is your native tongue, then dude, you have some major problems. While I think it's wonderful that you want to start a business, your posts suggest an intellect inacapable of succeeding as an entreprenuer. Please understand that I don't mean that as an insult, read my last sentence carefully, with an emphasis on the word suggest. I'm not saying you're not smart, you may very well be more intelligent than I, but your lack of ability to clearly communicate will prevent you from ever being successful on the scale you imagine. Like others have said, instead of putting the cart before the horse, concentrate first on educating yourself and polishing your comm skills, then worry about starting an airline. Again please disregard this paragraph if English is a second language to you.

Secondly, your comment concerning polling FedEx/UPS customers to find out: "what they would like to see." Man, get real. These organizations pickup your packages and deliver them almost anywhere in the world in less than 36 hours AT THE MOST, what's not to like? If your idea for a business model was feasible, some billionaire would have done it already. One could not ever build an organization capable of competing profitably, even with unlimited funds. How serious are these freight operations about their customers? I once flew an extra hour and forty five minutes in a Cessna Caravan (1.2M asset) to deliver a missorted DHL letter. One envelope! They would rather spend one thousand dollars than have a single upset customer if they can avoid it. Abex, FedEx, and UPS are the same.

There's no reason you can't suceed in business, but you have to set your sights a bit lower. My boss was 21 years old with no colateral when he talked a banker out of 4 million dollar loan to purchase his first Learjet. He now owns a large FBO and charter company at the age of 36. All self-made. But he had to do the legwork first. By 21 he had an A&P (airplane mechanic) and most of his pilot's certificates and several thousand hours of flying time, hauling freight then rock n' roll groups on tour.

I'm not trying to discourage you, to borrow a phrase, I wish you success!