New AAI ALPA Strategy: Fire SWA Haters!

[SWA/FO]

BTW; I was HIRED. I don't have any stickers on my bag.

 

[funnyman12]

We were acquired cause we're awesome!! 1st round draft pick! Happy memorial day guys!

 

[redflyer65]

It's not easy being very harmonious when you got guys running around with "hired not acquired" bag tags and making ridiculous comments about what GK might do with the AT pilots.

1- Haven't seen one bag tag that says that, especially since we don't have flight bags anymore, and..

2- What Gary decides to do with you guys is really up to him, not us. I wouldn't push him too hard though. That's not a threat, but just good advice...he really holds all the cards in this deal. Not ALPA or SWAPA.

 

[PCL_128]

Hey I don't want to be involved in your union- but can anyone set the rumor mill straight-
It was said that TO/Aka PCL128/ aka an officer more loyal to ALPA national that to AT pilots, much less swapa, -who had a LOT of future ambitions- was removed for interference w/ the SLI process/ aka: ALPA national attempting to interfere w/ the SLI-

Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Hopefully the trannies will come to their senses before it's too late. From the looks of this thread, they are pisssing away their careers big time.

 

[PCL_128]

I'm starting to worry about you man. You're kinda talking in the third person here. Its clear who you are so relax a bit.

I think Flightinfo should remain anonymous. I don't confirm or deny any speculation about who I am, and I don't try to "out" anyone else here, either.

So "we are ALPA" aka PCL148 was a hardcore arbitration dude?

No, not sure where that idea came from. If a negotiated solution is possible, then that's the far better way to go.

So wait PCL- you're still a EVP at ALPA national even though you just got recalled?

And what about when you become a Swapa pilot?

If an MEC officer is also an EVP, the two aren't tied together. You can leave or be recalled from one without affecting the other.

You can't be an ALPA officer if you're not an active ALPA member, so once AirTran is SWAPA, any AirTran pilots lose ALPA positions.

 

[redflyer65]

I just hope the AAI NC understand BATNA for the rest of the group, if not, everyone needs to educate themselves. Having a good negotiated solution would be the best for all involved....anything other than that could get ugly quickly.

The top members of FAPA screwed the rest, a perfect example of the way NOT to do it.

RF

 

[-9Capt]

1- Haven't seen one bag tag that says that, especially since we don't have flight bags anymore, and..

2- What Gary decides to do with you guys is really up to him, not us. I wouldn't push him too hard though. That's not a threat, but just good advice...he really holds all the cards in this deal. Not ALPA or SWAPA.

1. I have, 2 weeks ago, MCO

2. How exactly do you think we might "push him"? Would an arbitrated SLI that certain SWAPA pilots don't agree with constitute pushing him?

 

[redflyer65]

1. I have, 2 weeks ago, MCO

2. How exactly do you think we might "push him"? Would an arbitrated SLI that certain SWAPA pilots don't agree with constitute pushing him?

I'm sorry that kind of activity is out there. I don't agree with that at all, and I think a large majority of SW pilots would agree, aka a few bad apples.

An arbitrated list that stings for GK and SWAPA? I have no idea what the threshold for Gary would be. I do believe he has one, but that would be just pure speculation on my part. I really don't see him ruining the 40yrs of culture here over a 'preceived' bad list. Even the 'preceived' part is up for debate. None of this is meant to be a threat, just the reality that we all face. I hope for a negotiated list, I worry that it might be a slippery slope after that...similiar to what Lear has stated before.

RF

 

[texman]

Thats why I have said the culture is in GK's hands. Not us.