New AA Unlimited J/S carriers

[amt]

I commute on AA all the time and according to all gate agents, NWA and NWAirlink has unlimited jumpseating too. Being part of CASS really helps !

Fly safe!

 

[aa73]

Well, that does it. This Air Wisconsin captain just closed his jumpseat to multiple jumpseaters when AA pilots are involved. Sorry in advance for anybody that gets left behind, but don't cry to me, go cry to your jumpseat coordinator.

Thanks pal. We wouldn't dream of crying in front of you.

Nice way of solving the problem. Grow up.

73

 

[Big Air]

Does Mesa qual for unlimited on AA?

Is there a number to call to get listed ?

 

[DDpaysoff]

Thanks AA and A. Eagle. Future DFW-JFK commuter....again. You guys have always been and will always be welcome on the Comair jumpseat.

 

[J32driver]

Thanks pal. We wouldn't dream of crying in front of you.

Nice way of solving the problem. Grow up.

73

Maybe I should clarify. I'll take 1 AA jumpseater and anyone else from any airline that shows up. If 2 AA guys show up, only 1 goes. Sorry!

Why has it come to this? Because I slept on the crew room couch after watching 2 half empty MD-80s leave me behind. Because AA has had MONTHS to fix this and hasnt. Because Our jumpseat coordinators have talked and yours has done nothing. Because the Air Willy guys have done the mature thing and it hasn't produced results. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Its time for some stranded AA guys to start squeaking!

When AA was 1 jumpseat period... I had no problem with that. But when you say "Unlimited for those that are unlimited" and then don't... THAT causes a problem. Why is it that Skywest qualifies and Air Wisconsin doesn't? We are both UAL Express... We both offer unlimited jumpseats.... yet your policy has been lopsided for months.

If you want a ride... its time to put some pressure on your jumpseat coordinator.

 

[aa73]

Maybe I should clarify. I'll take 1 AA jumpseater and anyone else from any airline that shows up. If 2 AA guys show up, only 1 goes. Sorry!

Why has it come to this? Because I slept on the crew room couch after watching 2 half empty MD-80s leave me behind. Because AA has had MONTHS to fix this and hasnt. Because Our jumpseat coordinators have talked and yours has done nothing. Because the Air Willy guys have done the mature thing and it hasn't produced results. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Its time for some stranded AA guys to start squeaking!

When AA was 1 jumpseat period... I had no problem with that. But when you say "Unlimited for those that are unlimited" and then don't... THAT causes a problem. Why is it that Skywest qualifies and Air Wisconsin doesn't? We are both UAL Express... We both offer unlimited jumpseats.... yet your policy has been lopsided for months.

If you want a ride... its time to put some pressure on your jumpseat coordinator.

Maybe I should clarify again.

Grow up.

I don't know why our agreement is the way it is. I certainly can't do much to change it. I can sit here and put all the "pressure" on my j/s coordinator without any results. All I do is try and be helpful in pointing out our SLOW process in adding unlimited carriers once every 3 months or so. So much for that.

However, if you want to endanger the ONLY jumpseat agreement AA has with Air Willy, be my guest. I'm sure your pilots who commute on us will probably be equally affected once your type of "reciprocation" kicks in.

Realize that all our coordinators can do is repeatedly pester management for new carriers. Management has the final say.

If you want progress, better start acting a little nicer.

Don't screw this up for the rest of the 99% of PROFESSIONAL Air Willy pilots. You won't be very popular.

73

 

[J32driver]

I'm sure your pilots who commute on us will probably be equally affected once your type of "reciprocation" kicks in.
73

Dude... your already leaving us behind with empty seats on the airplane.

 

[aa73]

Dude... your already leaving us behind with empty seats on the airplane.

Well, with your attitude - and the harm it can bring to your fellow Air Willy crewmembers - you are not exactly motivating us to fix the problem.

When an airline pilot wages a vendetta against another airline's pilot group using the jumpseat, reciprocal agreements get jeopardized. I don't think you want that to happen.

In other words, you won't get the problem fixed by focusing your anger issues on guys trying to get home or to work. You will make it worse, guaranteed. It's been tried before.

It's not the pilot group's fault. As I said, our coordinator is lobbying to get every reciprocal unlimited airline onto our list, but management calls the shots, and they take their time.

Lemme send our coordinator an email and see where it stands regarding Air Willy. I'll get back to you.

73

 

[aa73]

Dude... your already leaving us behind with empty seats on the airplane.

What I meant by that is, when you turn the jumpseat down to one of our guys, eventually Air Willy pilots may find themeselves getting turned down by our guys as well. Hate breeds hate. Don't go down that road. You will end up compromising our agreement, and then everybody loses.

 

[Roger Dat]

Hey aa73. while your at it, could you ask your jumpseat cord. whats up with ASA. since the DFW closure, we have a lot of guys that commute from there and sure could use the help.

thanks

 

[Yank McCobb]

Dude... your already leaving us behind with empty seats on the airplane.

I have started today leaving all Air Wisconsin pilots behind, no matter what. But before I do, I make sure and tell them why.

Yes, indeed. A real popular guy you are. I'd wouldn't leave my car in the airport lot if I were you.

 

[J32driver]

Lemme send our coordinator an email and see where it stands regarding Air Willy. I'll get back to you.

73

Thank you. I sincerely appreciate the effort.

 

[nimtz]

I have started today leaving all Air Wisconsin pilots behind, no matter what. But before I do, I make sure and tell them why.

Yes, indeed. A real popular guy you are. I'd wouldn't leave my car in the airport lot if I were you.

Holy Ski Nazi Batman. Your ego is probably to big to see how pathetic it is to lower yourself to the level of the one you argue with.

 

[Yank McCobb]

Just making a point there, Jr. Go back to sleep.

 

[skid]

OK let me see if I understand this. AA has unlimited Jump if you are on the cass system and offer unlimited jump in return? I was told earlier in this forum that Alaska has unlimited and Horizon does not with AA. Is this still the case? Cause Horizon has always been unlimited jump to everyone in our book and is on the cass system. Can someone clarify, Please?

 

[nimtz]

Just making a point there, Jr. Go back to sleep.

Yes the point is you are a d!ck if you close your jumpseat to an AWAC guy because of a post on an internet board. Why so many are so quick to act childish over a simple thing like helping a guy get to work I'll never understand. Trust me senior since it's Friday night I'll be up alot later then you tonight.

 

[aa73]

OK let me see if I understand this. AA has unlimited Jump if you are on the cass system and offer unlimited jump in return? I was told earlier in this forum that Alaska has unlimited and Horizon does not with AA. Is this still the case? Cause Horizon has always been unlimited jump to everyone in our book and is on the cass system. Can someone clarify, Please?

CASS carriers does not = unlimited j/s. You can be a CASS carrier and not on the unlimited agreement, as is the case with Horizon.

Tell you all what, I'm gonna speak to the coordinator as soon as I get back from this trip. I'll ask about all of the airlines that are still not unlimited, gimme a couple of days.

 

[J32driver]

Tell you all what, I'm gonna speak to the coordinator as soon as I get back from this trip. I'll ask about all of the airlines that are still not unlimited, gimme a couple of days.

YOU DA MAN!!! All of us "stranded" thank you very much.

 

[OPECJet]

Nice to see US and MDA on the list. I work for one of the WO's who is not on the unlimited list. Does that mean pilots at my company should only take one JS from AA? If your answer is yes, first off, you obviously don't commute. Second, you are awfully short sighted and fail to realize that up until recently, AA only took one JS regardless of who you worked for. This is an improvement. I have no doubt APA is doing what it can to get everyone on the list, and will eventually succeed.

Now if we could just get DL to start easing up a bit as well. I was working a flight where two DL guys showed for a ride, and both approached us though they expected us to take only one. That's no way to live a commuting life....