NetJets Unrest Puts Warren Buffett in a Rare Pinch

[Diesel]

In the early stage of negotiations it is to be expected for them to come in low, right?

2 years is the early stages? So we should be done in 10 years.

Does your previous union experience tell you this is normal?

 

[ragman]

G4, a frightened mouse trying to work up the courage to be a rat.

 

[fischman]

I don't believe the Omaha picket is a good idea. Just negotiate vigorously and let's see what the finished voting product is.

Its called leverage dude.

Let's say we're having dinner together. I put my wallet on th table and tell you there's $50,000 in it. You can have it if you convince me.

I promise that there is NOTHING you can say that will convince me to hand it over. NOTHING you can SAY. That is what negotiations are. Talk.

In order to get any of the $50,000 it has to be cheaper for me to hand it over than keep it. You have to LEVERAGE me to get it.

This analogy was published on our message board by someone much smarter than me. Perhaps you should spend some time there. You might learn something.

 

[G4dude]

Its called leverage dude.

Let's say we're having dinner together. I put my wallet on th table and tell you there's $50,000 in it. You can have it if you convince me.

I promise that there is NOTHING you can say that will convince me to hand it over. NOTHING you can SAY. That is what negotiations are. Talk.

In order to get any of the $50,000 it has to be cheaper for me to hand it over than keep it. You have to LEVERAGE me to get it.

This analogy was published on our message board by someone much smarter than me. Perhaps you should spend some time there. You might learn something.

Could be. BTW, the opinion about the early stages was given to me by 3 colleagues who have quite a bit of union experience. I was quoting them, since my experience is limited in these matters.

 

[Diesel]

Could be. BTW, the opinion about the early stages was given to me by 3 colleagues who have quite a bit of union experience. I was quoting them, since my experience is limited in these matters.

You mean your 3 friends that say they would SCAB knowing what they know now?

 

[G4dude]

You mean your 3 friends that say they would SCAB knowing what they know now?

I'm not sure what their stance is on scabbing. I had asked a question about how long we have before we see a finished product to vote on, and they smiled and said this is a long process of which we are in the early stages.

 

[G4dude]

You mean your 3 friends that say they would SCAB knowing what they know now?

Are you capable of having a normal conversation without acrimony and sarcasm? I ask this sincerely. You have a lot of knowledge, but discussing things with you is like slogging through hip deep cold molasses. Can we lighten up a little? The world is not divided between Friends and Enemies, with nobody in between.

 

[fischman]

Could be. BTW, the opinion about the early stages was given to me by 3 colleagues who have quite a bit of union experience. I was quoting them, since my experience is limited in these matters.

Could be? It is.

We are not in the early stages. I have more union experience than you. Will you believe me too?

Convince me to give you $50,000 and I'll do it. Seriously.

 

[Diesel]

Are you capable of having a normal conversation without acrimony and sarcasm? I ask this sincerely. You have a lot of knowledge, but discussing things with you is like slogging through hip deep cold molasses. Can we lighten up a little? The world is not divided between Friends and Enemies, with nobody in between.

I'm able to have a conversation with someone that understands what I'm trying to explain to them. Actually not just me trying to explain to them but many pilots and they still don't get it.

Oh wait I did it again. I'm a bad person.

 

[G4dude]

I'm able to have a conversation with someone that understands what I'm trying to explain to them. Actually not just me trying to explain to them but many pilots and they still don't get it.

Oh wait I did it again. I'm a bad person.

You are not a bad person. But those who disagree with you are not bad people either.

 

[Diesel]

You are not a bad person. But those who disagree with you are not bad people either.

There is a difference between a disagreement and those that cross a picket line. They are not only bad people but a pos.

The only one who will disagree with that are SCABS themselves.

Of course they are only looking out for themselves to begin with.

 

[jonjuan]

The pilot shortage rears its ugly head. Delta has to pay $20K/year to retain regional pilots.

http://www.endeavorair.com/documents/Endeavor-Air-Pilot-Retention-Payment-Overview.pdf

 

[G4dude]

The pilot shortage rears its ugly head. Delta has to pay $20K/year to retain regional pilots.

http://www.endeavorair.com/documents/Endeavor-Air-Pilot-Retention-Payment-Overview.pdf

Well! The marketplace in action. More, more!

 

[Diesel]

Well! The marketplace in action. More, more!

Love seeing these naive statements.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Wanna guess what kinda places those endeavor guys are running to?

Endeavor + $20,000 < NetJets