NetJets TA Reached

[semperfido]

I am not making this up but also can not say its true for certain.

then it is nothing more than a rumor

 

[Sctt@NJA]

Yeah just a rumor... but an informed rumor from a person who is more likely than the average line pilot to know the specifics at this early juncture.

 

[Geronimo4497]

I'm a wait and see type. Just because the TA has been put on the table does not make it approved. Once these guys are getting what they deserve, I will believe it. Personally, I wonder how long the "trickle down" will take for the other outfits. Off to "work"...................

 

[hydrarkt]

Diesel, as a veteran of this industry let me tell you that you better start looking at ways to change and change quickly. Whenever the dust settles from something like this, management looks for ways to put out the trash!

Boo Hoo,
Poor Hawkered...I'm willing to bet that you haven't worked at NJA. You sound like a cry baby. I'll also willing to bet that you were a naysayer against our Union.
Dust settles?? What makes you think that it'll settle. Will management all of a sudden cease using deceptive and dishonest practices when dealing with pilots and the new CBA? Will they try to navigate around the "intent" of language of the new CBA and operate in a "grey" area??? We shall see. I have my opinion... Diesel is not the trash. The trash resides elsewhere.

 

[Tatsu]

I can say that today in PBI that the NJI guys where asking for details! They may even be a little jealous. One told me that this would be about the same as they make for a year 4 captain at NJI, which was around 90k.

 

[rice]

(Copied from the e-mail I got this morning)

Here is some basic information about the agreement:

Wages

The guaranteed base wages include first year guaranteed base wages for First Officers is $39,000 for the Normal schedule and $46,286 for the Reserve
schedule. At the fifth year guaranteed base wages move to $47,405 on the
Normal schedule and $56,261 for the Reserve schedule.

For captains the first year guaranteed base wages are $52,500 for the Normal schedule and $62,308 for the Reserve schedule. At the fifth year guaranteed base wages move to $90,000 for the Normal schedule and $106,813 for the Reserve schedule. ......................................................................
/quote]

Now I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade here but these pay numbers don't seem all that good to me. I realize that its an improvement and that probably no one EXPECTED to get 100% of NBAA rates but it still seems low to me. Especially since the old CBA is 4 years out of date. In any case, if this is ratified by your membership then congrats.
Any of you NJA guys care to do a side by side comparison of the CBA and the TA, based on the above post.

 

[hydrarkt]

The comparison will be done by the Union. They will compare the current CBA, the TA that was voted down and the new TA.
I agree that the numbers are not extraordinary. However, in my case it amounts to a 50% raise. I will be making over six figures when all pay including OT, per diem etc is figured. So compared to now, that is good. Scope is very important too. If our jobs are protected, it is worth a lot. Am I ecstatic?? No. Am I happy that it's over and I can make a respectable and decent living while also having the free time to make money in another business? Yes.

 

[Sctt@NJA]

Just sticking to yr 1 and 5 comparison for fo and pic on normal schedule:

Current

yr 1 fo: 27108

yr 5 fo: 32160
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Proposed

yr 1 fo: 39000

yr 5 fo: 47405
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Current

yr 1 pic: 37560

yr 5 pic: 60984
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Proposed

yr 1 pic: 52500

yr 5 pic: 90000

 

[shamrock]

Sounds better than the regional I work at. Now how do I apply again?

 

[Hawkered]

Shamrock, come on over. We need good people that show pride, respect and humility. You can be expected to work hard and be well rewarded too!