Netjets - Say Hello To Your First Global

[G4dude]

So, does that assume that the Gs will stick around for awhile as the Globals are phased in? Won't the Globals be replacing the entire Gulfstream fleet? Or will the fleet ultimately include a mix of Gulfstreams and Globals? Sorry, I guess I am a bit confused.... Thanks for any clarification.

The GIV and GV folks will leave fingernail scratch marks in the carpet as the Gs get phased out, then I guess we will try for the Global because we like the long trips. We won't bid the Global as long as we can fly the "Guffstreams", I suspect. I should have been clearer. The Gulfstreams will be phased out over the next 10 years, I think, replaced as they leave by Globals, which probably is a fine plane.

 

[BentOver]

Same article said we were doing well too; we expect an announcement tomorrow night telling us that we're going out of business.

same article interviewed NJA's ex-managment team member and it's Union President who is in very hot water at the moment... Then when part II comes out the first headline is how NJA execs. wouldn't be agree to be interviewed.. Gee I wonder why, they got roasted in Part I.

when it comes to aviation articles like that every thinks they're an expert.. Just look at B.Foley.....He throws out so much crap it comes out of his ears.

 

[NachoMamma]

then I guess we will try for the Global because we like the long trips.

You're assuming you have the seniority to hold it...very unlikely.

 

[G4dude]

You're assuming you have the seniority to hold it...very unlikely.

I think we would have a decent shot in a displacement bid. Is my terminology correct? Otherwise, you are correct, Nacho.

 

[bluepost]

If these displacements happen, say 5 years from now, I think there would be a crap storm if any G displacements to the Global went any more junior then any current (at the time) Global pilot.

No company lets baggage linger that long from any merger. At some point in the future G pilots will fly the aircraft that their seniority can hold. By that point there will hopefully have been dozens of Global bids that the G guys could of bid fair and square, and if the pay structure is the same (40k lbs +), that extra $$$ they were making all those years would of been viewed as a gift.

 

[G4dude]

If these displacements happen, say 5 years from now, I think there would be a crap storm if any G displacements to the Global went any more junior then any current (at the time) Global pilot.

No company lets baggage linger that long from any merger. At some point in the future G pilots will fly the aircraft that their seniority can hold. By that point there will hopefully have been dozens of Global bids that the G guys could of bid fair and square, and if the pay structure is the same (40k lbs +), that extra $$$ they were making all those years would of been viewed as a gift.

You could very well be right. A couple of Union guys have told me that NJA will probably want to staff the Globals with displaced "Guffstream" pilots. Other pilots for the Globals would obviously come from non seat locked senior gold tie pilots, and that's as it should be. They are sure going to get some interesting trips!

 

[CRAWDADDY]

Let's not get worked over this...

Play it right and there will be plenty of Globals to go around.

From a practical standpoint, it makes sense. Both sides allowed an A-Team culture but the black ties know what they're doing. It's hit or miss on the union side. Some knowledgeable int'l A-Teamers, some chuckleheads.
If the gold ties don't try to agitate the displaced pilots, they may actually pick up a few pointers and we can be one big happy family.

Still better than that "great" BBJ deal.

 

[Willy21]

That is three positive posts in a row. Knock it off guys, remember were are to be locked in a bitter duel to te end.

 

[Pervis]

If the gold ties don't try to agitate the displaced pilots, they may actually pick up a few pointers and we can be one big happy family.

Always makes me chuckle. Ran into one of those super G pilots in HPN who said a few years in the right seat would be necessary for those gold ties to learn the trade. The look I got when I told him I was in my early 20's when Uncle Sam gave me a $40 million fighter to tool around Europe and East Asia in the 80's was classic. I still bow in their presence-not. It ain't rocket science.

 

[Partyfoul]

Always makes me chuckle. Ran into one of those super G pilots in HPN who said a few years in the right seat would be necessary for those gold ties to learn the trade. The look I got when I told him I was in my early 20's when Uncle Sam gave me a $40 million fighter to tool around Europe and East Asia in the 80's was classic. I still bow in their presence-not. It ain't rocket science.

I think its funny you call an F-111 a fighter..... I kid....

 

[Pervis]

I think its funny you call an F-111 a fighter..... I kid....

LOL. It was a rather ungainly fighter, other than faster than a raped ape. One night in the O-club (one of many) I did challenge a lawn dart pilot (F16) to a fracus in the Scottish Highlands. When he asked where and when, I said 200' AGL at midnight, and he said 'are you nuts'? I still am.

 

[Semore Butts]

Geez..... What a bore!

G4, I'm in the low 1500's. You can have my spot (unless your senior of course). (I guess there are about 120 plus GLC guys junior to me)

Listening to these posts, the thought of being stuck in a cockpit with such elite pilots is more than I could bare. (Ug!)

I just don't understand how you guys were born with all that experience? Gotta go call my Army buddy, he's an MD-11 pilot, we used to fly helicopters together. (I was his IP)

Say, how much time do you guys log when you fly 60 minutes?

HAhahahahahahaha!!!!!! Have a great day heroes!!!!

 

[Helmsalee]

Love it Semore.

 

[ozpilot]

Funny stuff Semore

 

[Hogprint]

You could very well be right. A couple of Union guys have told me that NJA will probably want to staff the Globals with displaced "Guffstream" pilots. Other pilots for the Globals would obviously come from non seat locked senior gold tie pilots, and that's as it should be. They are sure going to get some interesting trips!

Add one more union guy telling you how it will go down...

The SDP slots will be open to interviews not bids. This is where you Gwhizzers get to feather the nest. After those slots are filled with the fair haired children then it will (we assume) go to open bids for the lowly line guys. This is where (horror of horrors) you'll have bid what you can hold assuming you've been displaced.

Why do you think there will be "interesting trips"? Any more interesting than the 20k retired airline Cpt sitting in my right seat when I was a newly minted PIC here with only 3k?

I can assure you as professionals, if I'm troubled by that grueling approach into LHTA I'll gladly defer to you sir.