NetJets in 2012/13 ???

[CA1900]

... and force you to get trained in Montreal ...

Let's see: cool city with beautiful women everywhere you look, or... Columbus. I think I'll take one for the team and be "forced" to go to Montreal.

 

[gutshotdraw]

I guess I was wrong on the Globals. NJA must have got an incredible deal from Bombardier while Gulfstream refused to budge. I thought that the Embraer order would have forced all the manufacturers to realize nothing is sacred at NJA any more. The sales and mx departments have their work cut out for them now. I hope it doesn't end up being like the Hawker 400 order- make the money on the sales and then eat it when the airplanes don't perform. I wonder how many loyal Gulfstream owners will walk or buy their own- probably from NJA trying to get rid of around 50 airframes there.

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[ozpilot]

Let's see: cool city with beautiful women everywhere you look, or... Columbus. I think I'll take one for the team and be "forced" to go to Montreal.

Reminds me of when I was upgrading at Comair. Had to choose between Cincinnati and Berlin. Guess where I went?

 

[Diesel]

I'm bidding it just to go to Montreaul. St Cathrine street here I come, poutine, smoked meat. I'm pumped.

I could give two craps about the plane.

 

[NachoMamma]

I could give two craps about the plane.

Thank you. Finally, a refreshing dose of reality in this FI starry eyed gulfstream bonerfest.

 

[Taildraggaah]

And it has NEVER met the advertised range, endurance, or runway performance.

I fly a Global and a 5000 and this is not our experience at all. performance books are some of the best I've seen, i.e, 120 ref at near gross landing weight with a LFL of 3600 feet. Flown the plane 13:30 on a leg over 6000nm.

 

[jonjuan]

I fly a Global and a 5000 and this is not our experience at all. performance books are some of the best I've seen, i.e, 120 ref at near gross landing weight with a LFL of 3600 feet. Flown the plane 13:30 on a leg over 6000nm.

Shhhhhhh-gutshotdraw and all the other gstream scientologists believe what they want to believe, despite having never operated one. Wait, doesn't Tom Cruise own a gstream? Hmmmmmm, coincidence?

 

[cush]

gstream scientologists

That's some funny $hit right there!

 

[gunfyter]

That's some funny $hit right there!

Yeah but he is looking for a lawsuit with that remark ... Dooker has the patent and all rights to Funny $hit on this board.... :laugh:

 

[jonjuan]

Yeah but he is looking for a lawsuit with that remark ... Dooker has the patent and all rights to Funny $hit on this board.... :laugh:

Sorry- Dooker does own all rights to funny sh1t posted here. Sorry Dooker, no slight intended.

 

[cush]

I could give two craps about the plane.

Really?! This coming from a former NJA PIC who has given up more than 50K a year for several years to be a G-Whiz SIC...I somehow doubt that.

 

[gret]

Thank you. Finally, a refreshing dose of reality in this FI starry eyed gulfstream bonerfest.

A lot of our thoughts, although we may have said it a bit differently.

Bombardier makes great airplanes..now the family that has the control of the business is a little daffy...but why should that matter?

BTW...NetJets isn't out of the woods by any means and hopefully this announcement isn't a repeat of the blowhard statements that were made a few years ago by Warren and others.

The numbers in the 10-K are still hard to believe when you take into account the published reports of flight activity, a/c prices, decreased share sales, and everyone else is losing their butts, etc. Management of NetJets, except Sokel, are really unproved items, and personal experience says they aren't too bright.

 

[batsky2000]

Let's see: cool city with beautiful women everywhere you look, or... Columbus. I think I'll take one for the team and be "forced" to go to Montreal.

I take it you have never done any training in Montreal, I have for the 605 and it was pretty sub-standard like their product, ask anyone who had to go to the Bombardier training center for their Global or Challenger training, and you will get the same statement....I will stick with Flight Safety...

On top of that lets see, I can stick with Flight Safety in Savannah for "G" school which is only a 3 hour drive for me, or I can airline somewhere nicer and have to deal with all of the security and airport hassles, I take Savannah, anytime I can drive and not have to airline, I can care less where the location is.....

 

[imacdog]

I've been to the center in Montreal for CRJ training. Montreal was awesome and the training was just fine. We used company instructors instead of CAE, but I don't really believe FSI's training is that much superior to their competition.

 

[gunfyter]

I've been to the center in Montreal for CRJ training. Montreal was awesome and the training was just fine. We used company instructors instead of CAE, but I don't really believe FSI's training is that much superior to their competition.

It is in the Gulfstream because (if we have learned anything in the last 15 years) everything in that plane is superior.

 

[NachoMamma]

A lot of our thoughts, although we may have said it a bit differently.

I beg to differ...there simply is not a more articulate word in the entire English language than "bonerfest". :laugh:

 

[jonjuan]

It is in the Gulfstream because (if we have learned anything in the last 15 years) everything in that plane is superior.

Especially those all the way up front.

 

[Dirty Dingus]

Especially those all the way up front.

Truer words were never spoken!!!!!!

 

[johnsonrod]

I thought Netjets had ordered something like 20-30 Gulfstream 450s and 550s a few years back for both NJA and NJE. Have they all been delivered? If not, how will the Global order impact the existing Gulfstream order? Will the Globals also go to Netjets Europe?

 

[dudemize]

I thought Netjets had ordered something like 20-30 Gulfstream 450s and 550s a few years back for both NJA and NJE. Have they all been delivered? If not, how will the Global order impact the existing Gulfstream order? Will the Globals also go to Netjets Europe?

Those deliveries start next year.