Netjets Gulfstreams & Globals - Coexisting?

[gutshotdraw]

I'm saying there are lots of blank stares when the terms like "ETP", "QFE", and "metric conversions" come up.

 

[Dirty Dingus]

Global's

:laugh: Yeah, and wait to see what that stare turns into when they go to the Global's with a (little bit) of IOE training and they're dispatched to China or places as such. I'm glad I don't have to set next to a Senior NJA pilot (capt or F.O.) that get's the bid!!!!!

 

[7on7Off]

:laugh: Yeah, and wait to see what that stare turns into when they go to the Global's with a (little bit) of IOE training and they're dispatched to China or places as such. I'm glad I don't have to set next to a Senior NJA pilot (capt or F.O.) that get's the bid!!!!!

You make it sound sooooo hard, or is your training department really that bad?

 

[gutshotdraw]

You make it sound sooooo hard, or is your training department really that bad?

Well, it has been dismantled of late.

The problem is people showing up expecting to be spoon fed every morsel of information they will need. You want to bid the long range equipment? Great. Crack a friggin book.

 

[jppt2000]

I'm saying there are lots of blank stares when the terms like "ETP", "QFE", and "metric conversions" come up.

Oh boy,
here it comes again, tired of the union boards so soon?

 

[Dirty Dingus]

You make it sound sooooo hard, or is your training department really that bad?

Give it a try yourself, (with no Int'l experience) and let me know how it works out for ya. There's always someone that thinks they can just jump out there and fly Globals or Gulfstreams anywhere in the world. The training at NJ is very good, and the majority of NJ pilots are TOP notch, but it takes time to learn. There's more to being a capt than flying, this AIN'T no airline, ie: go thru the door, turn left and sit down.

 

[gunfyter]

Give it a try yourself, (with no Int'l experience) and let me know how it works out for ya. There's always someone that thinks they can just jump out there and fly Globals or Gulfstreams anywhere in the world. The training at NJ is very good, and the majority of NJ pilots are TOP notch, but it takes time to learn. There's more to being a capt than flying, this AIN'T no airline, ie: go thru the door, turn left and sit down.

Who has no international experience?

 

[jppt2000]

Give it a try yourself, (with no Int'l experience) and let me know how it works out for ya. There's always someone that thinks they can just jump out there and fly Globals or Gulfstreams anywhere in the world. The training at NJ is very good, and the majority of NJ pilots are TOP notch, but it takes time to learn. There's more to being a capt than flying, this AIN'T no airline, ie: go thru the door, turn left and sit down.

Wow,
Thanks for the edukashun.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Who has no international experience?

At a guess, two Beechjet F/O's, two Excel Captains, an Excel F/O and a partidge in a pear tree. The Hawker Captain probably has a little.

 

[jonjuan]

And just like all those MD-80 FOs who showed up in 2003, the news guys will also learn the ropes.

 

[OPECJet]

Given the amount of NJA types with heavy / international experience, I'm calling partial BS. "Partial" because many of those guys aren't senior enough to "crossover" to the G. The guys that are going, maybe shouldn't. Call it a byproduct of the seniority system and NJA having been a crappy place to work pre-2005.

In the meantime, the elitism coming from SOME former NJI types is ridiculous. We all work for the same company (some of you do anyway). Get over yourselves and enjoy your contract and representation we paid for. Sounds like you might need it sooner rather than later given the current management "team".

 

[T-1GUY]

Wow, as a super junior guy and a beechjet driver, I think your assumptions are flawed. I was a heavy driver flying internationally back in the early nineties. I think I would do just fine as a G FO. Hell, I might even teach the Captain a thing or two...

 

[jppt2000]

At a guess, two Beechjet F/O's, two Excel Captains, an Excel F/O and a partidge in a pear tree. The Hawker Captain probably has a little.

Self serving hog wash.
Another disgruntled "front door" NJI guy.
I guess its better to hide in "anonymity" in the ether of flight info.

 

[gunfyter]

I managed to fly to Kuwait City and back to the US later after operating for some months along the Iraq border ... with stops at Sondrestrom Reykavic Keflavic Prestwick Oberfafenhafen Brindisi Corfu Cyprus Cairo and Dahran after only using Jepps for the first time for about 3 months ... just by reading volume 1 before I left. No International training outside North America other than military helicopter operations from military fields and US Navy ships afloat only.

Had an engine failure while crossing the Atlantic for the first time. Gotta admit I had a really rotten feeling in the pit of my stomach when that happened.

The more experience the better but its everyone's first time once.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Once again, you all missed the point.