Netjets Globals

[Pervis]

First Global is now in CMH and should start revenue trips in about two weeks. Three more to follow this year.

 

[cldsfr79]

First Global is now in CMH and should start revenue trips in about two weeks. Three more to follow this year.

Very good. And to boot our best of the best most senior respected pilots, many from them BBJ fleet, will be flying them. I should downgrade myself just so I can learn from them and study their airmanship.

 

[Pervis]

Very good. And to boot our best of the best most senior respected pilots, many from them BBJ fleet, will be flying them. I should downgrade myself just so I can learn from them and study their airmanship.

Seniority sucks, don't it? In all seriousness, I was pleasantly surprised 10 of 11 SDP positions were awarded to the non-GLC fleet pilots. Not all were real senior, nor were they BBJ pilots. All regular bids, yea only 13 so far, were open to the whole membership. I just can't see all the conspiracies I guess.

 

[G4dude]

Seniority sucks, don't it? In all seriousness, I was pleasantly surprised 10 of 11 SDP positions were awarded to the non-GLC fleet pilots. Not all were real senior, nor were they BBJ pilots. All regular bids, yea only 13 so far, were open to the whole membership. I just can't see all the conspiracies I guess.

Conspiracy theories usually don't pan out, except in the fevered imaginings of the theorists. What intrigues me about the Globals is whether they will be reliable enough for the flying we do.

 

[CALRepublic]

Conspiracy theories usually don't pan out, except in the fevered imaginings of the theorists. What intrigues me about the Globals is whether they will be reliable enough for the flying we do.

The Globals will be fine G-4, more and more companies are buying Globals. and they're not buying those Globals just because Bombardier is giving them a better deal than Gulfstream, the airplane can do the job. It had a rough start, that's all

 

[Pervis]

It had a rough start, that's all

No where near as rough as the G650.

 

[rajflyboy]

Gulfsteam is still considered top dog in the high end business jet. Its also built In the usa

 

[Pervis]

Yep. And the Cowboys are still "America's Team".

 

[rajflyboy]

Yep. And the Cowboys are still "America's Team".

That's one great argument right there

 

[gutshotdraw]

Let's check back in about 18 months. The airplane can be....finicky. If the crew isn't willing to push some extra buttons or reset a few breakers to make it happy enough to fly, the program could have some "issues."

 

[jetlag7]

Let's check back in about 18 months. The airplane can be....finicky. If the crew isn't willing to push some extra buttons or reset a few breakers to make it happy enough to fly, the program could have some "issues."

Pushing buttons and resetting breakers? The "crew" has been doing a helluva lot more than that for years now.... in fact, if it weren't for the "crew" that tired old bird would be rusting in some boneyard by now....

The problem is that the "bossman" is so disconnected from reality he's convinced himself that he and his pals are the ones keeping that girl flying and feels he should continue to reward himself handsomley while taking as much as he can from the "crew."

18 months? A lot can happen in that amount of time... The "crew" is already tired of this game and may just stop playing by then... The "bossman" might find himself all alone wondering why he can't make the "airplane" fly. Who knows? Maybe he'll finally realize he had little to do with it in the first place.....

 

[gutshotdraw]

Pushing buttons and resetting breakers? The "crew" has been doing a helluva lot more than that for years now.... in fact, if it weren't for the "crew" that tired old bird would be rusting in some boneyard by now....

The problem is that the "bossman" is so disconnected from reality he's convinced himself that he and his pals are the ones keeping that girl flying and feels he should continue to reward himself handsomley while taking as much as he can from the "crew."

18 months? A lot can happen in that amount of time... The "crew" is already tired of this game and may just stop playing by then... The "bossman" might find himself all alone wondering why he can't make the "airplane" fly. Who knows? Maybe he'll finally realize he had little to do with it in the first place.....

I'm talking specifically about the Global XRS/6000. Not sure what you're talking about.

 

[G4dude]

Pushing buttons and resetting breakers? The "crew" has been doing a helluva lot more than that for years now.... in fact, if it weren't for the "crew" that tired old bird would be rusting in some boneyard by now....

The problem is that the "bossman" is so disconnected from reality he's convinced himself that he and his pals are the ones keeping that girl flying and feels he should continue to reward himself handsomley while taking as much as he can from the "crew."

18 months? A lot can happen in that amount of time... The "crew" is already tired of this game and may just stop playing by then... The "bossman" might find himself all alone wondering why he can't make the "airplane" fly. Who knows? Maybe he'll finally realize he had little to do with it in the first place.....

Oh please. Spare us the "workers of the world unite" crap.

 

[jetlag7]

I'm talking specifically about the Global XRS/6000. Not sure what you're talking about.

Thought you were being figurative - my bad... In that case, better pack an extra roll of duct-tape there cowboy!

 

[jetlag7]

Oh please. Spare us the "workers of the world unite" crap.

Gutshot and GIV "tag-team" - I feel so loved! Now if only Gret would just jump in and show her pretty little face, I'd really feel "special."

 

[G4dude]

Gutshot and GIV "tag-team" - I feel so loved! Now if only Gret would just jump in and show her pretty little face, I'd really feel "special."

Yeah, there are only a few of us masochistic enough to spend time here...

 

[gret]

Gutshot and GIV "tag-team" - I feel so loved! Now if only Gret would just jump in and show her pretty little face, I'd really feel "special."

Whoa cowboy...what did I do?

I was just hanging around the clubhouse minding my own business hoping to play some golf...

But I do have this, although incredibly lame...got it from my brother in law -

A union boss walks into a bar next door to the factory and is about to order a drink to celebrate Obama's victory when he sees a guy close by wearing a Romney for President button and two beers in front of him. He doesn't have to be an Einstein to know that this guy is a Republican. So, he shouts over to the bartender so loudly that everyone can hear, "Drinks for everyone in here, bartender, but not for the Republican."

Soon after the drinks have been handed out, the Republican gives him a big smile, waves at him, then says, "Thank you!" in an equally loud voice. This infuriates the union boss.

So the union boss once again loudly orders drinks for everyone except the Republican. As before, this does not seem to bother the Republican. He continues to smile, and again yells, "Thank you!"

So just to make his point one more time, the union boss once again loudly orders drinks for everyone except the Republican. But, as before, this does not seem to bother the Republican. He continues to smile, and again yells, "Thank you!"

Frustrated, the union boss asks the bartender, "What the hell is the matter with that Republican? I've ordered three rounds of drinks for everyone in the bar but him, and all the silly ass does is smile and thank me. Is he nuts?"

"Nope," replies the bartender. "He owns the place."
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[jetlag7]

Feeling "warm and fuzzy" already!!!

You're right - lame yet still kinda' funny Gret... I've only heard the Democrat/Republican version of the joke... guess you just couldn't help yourself from putting a little "Gret doesn't like Unions" spin on it. :bomb:

Now that I have your attention, what exactly do the three of you hope to accomplish by repeatedly attacking the concept of Collective Bargaining on an anonymous message board? If you're trying to sway the opinions of the NJASAP membership, this isn't exactly the best place to do that.

I'm not trying to pick on ya'll, but it seems pretty obvious the three of you have very strong opinions that differ significantly from many among the NJASAP membership. If you are trying to gain some kind of traction for your points of view, wouldn't it make more sense to join the conversation already taking place on the NJASAP board?

The three of you articulate quite well and have an uncanny knack for keeping your heads relatively cool while under fire. Although I find myself in disagreement with many of your positions, I genuinely believe there is something you could bring to the table.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Feeling "warm and fuzzy" already!!!

You're right - lame yet still kinda' funny Gret... I've only heard the Democrat/Republican version of the joke... guess you just couldn't help yourself from putting a little "Gret doesn't like Unions" spin on it. :bomb:

Now that I have your attention, what exactly do the three of you hope to accomplish by repeatedly attacking the concept of Collective Bargaining on an anonymous message board? If you're trying to sway the opinions of the NJASAP membership, this isn't exactly the best place to do that.

I'm not trying to pick on ya'll, but it seems pretty obvious the three of you have very strong opinions that differ significantly from many among the NJASAP membership. If you are trying to gain some kind of traction for your points of view, wouldn't it make more sense to join the conversation already taking place on the NJASAP board?

The three of you articulate quite well and have an uncanny knack for keeping your heads relatively cool while under fire. Although I find myself in disagreement with many of your positions, I genuinely believe there is something you could bring to the table.

I thought this was a discussion about the future of the Netjets Global Express program. About which I am saying, let's reevaluate in 18 months. There are many questions yet to be answered on the subject.

As for the NJASAP board, you're kidding. Right?

That ship sailed a while back.

 

[gret]

Only have an hour or two, so I will keep it brief.

The lame joke was cut and pasted as received. It wasn’t good enough to share with my right (of Attila the Hun) leaning friends.

Only speak for myself…don’t know the others real feelings. Personally, I only recall one serial poster who was obviously very anti-union and a bit melodramatic.

Nothing against “Collective Bargaining”. While I prefer making my own career decisions, that doesn’t mean I think unions are bad. Bad acting by certain union members (see below) require responses which lead others to believe that my opinion of unions are overly negative. One extreme has to be balance by another.

Could be wrong, but it appears the union is made up of three groups of members…the first are those that don’t like unions but have to belong, the second could care less…just give me my check and leave me alone, and the third group made up of malcontents who never belonged to anything in their life and feel empowered because they now carry a union card. The first and last groups are in the minority and most members are good, decent, hardworking folks who do their professions very well.

The third group are the ones that get indigestion and go apecrap anytime someone posts anything slightly contrary to their union views…which causes hilarious (my opinion), although boring to many, debate and chain pulling. They take things a little too personally and are way too serious.

Union debates will never end, nor should they. Outlandish comments always deserve rebuttal.



Better topics to discuss-

Gutshot just mentioned Globals…very interesting topic and still don’t know why mgmt decided to make this, and other, changes in aircraft manufacturers.
Future of the fractional industry? Many challenges not only for the frac’s, but private aviation in general. Talk back in 2008 is that we would recover in 6 months; we are now in the 5th year of no growth and no light at the end of the tunnel.
Who are the leaders of private aviation that will lead us from this mess? A good cowboy or two leading the herd would be good right now. NetJets use to fill this role, but now is out of sight which isn't good for the company or the industry. The guy running EJM is a good soldier, but quiet, don't know anything about the guy at the helm of the mothership.​