NetJets Europe

[jtf]

There is about to be a new ab-initio NJE program to do up to 48 pilots a year from all over Europe. Evidently it is an 18 month training program and they make the same salary from day one, but they have 5 or 6 years of repaying the company for their training. I guess they start recruiting for it this month. This won't help Americans at all, but I thought it was interesting enough info to share on this thread. It was from a company email- not a rumor.

 

[Mike Jenvey]

NJE Cadet Scheme

 

[On Your Six]

What aircraft types would these cadets likely start in? Any guesses? I hear that the less experienced pilots often start in the bigger aircraft in order to learn from more experienced pilots...

Sounds like a great opportunity for a newbie in Europe.

 

[Mike Jenvey]

Ask us again in about 20 months or whenever the first cadet arrives!

Personally, I think that a few of them will perhaps start on the larger fleets, but I don't know of any formal policy yet. Maybe the first couple of courses will start on the small/mid-size fleets just to confirm the level of training & assess how the cadets adapt to the "live" environment. All very much a guess at the moment!

Perhaps there will have to be a different look at fleets, overall experience levels, upgrade potential, etc, as these cadets will probably take about 4 - 5 yrs to get the total time for upgrade, maybe on their 2nd fleet type when upgrade comes along. Lots of variables, waaay above my pay grade!!

 

[Diesel]

I wonder if US owners are going to be flying on "cadet" airplanes and understand that they have just entered a single pilot cabin.

Cadet was almost tried here in the states. Wouldn't have worked and thank god because it would have been the downward spiral the regionals have become.

If the EU pilots could mount an effective PR campaign this would be dead as dixie.

 

[DO-82 driver]

D....you're assuming the EU pilots have a set of cahones.

I know that a bunch of the NJE folks are nothing more than cheese-eating, surrender-monkey....."pardon me, but do you have any Grey Poupon?"-type of pilots

Remember that twice during the last century the USA had to bail out our European Allies----twice.....

I think this might be number 3 coming up, only this time Local 1108 will be landing on Omaha Beach!!!

 

[Diesel]

Mmmmm hairy armpits.

 

[IronManNDFW]

I spoke with a "recruiter" from Jet Professionals a couple weeks ago.

Their "Deal" was fly you from US base to Europe and pick up your a/c. Fly for 35 days and RTB for 31 days off. No mention of having to have a EU passport, but they did want you to get a 2nd US passport for VISA services.

They fly you To / FM Europe on the 35 days. No mention of schedule other than pick up airplane and fly. Company picks up hotels & airlines.

Seams you got $100 per diem per day.

Starting pay for Hawker CA was around $95,000.00 US, no information provided about taxes other than they need to be paid. Check drawn on Bank in Saudi.

Never got word on what rules to fly by (FAA - N registered A/C or Jar-Ops 1). They do have a few N registered aircraft and some "other" rgistered A/C.

I read that they need to add about 160-180 pilots THIS year.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Sounds mighty shady to me.......$100/day perdiem in Europe might be a bit under the average.

I don't mind doing TEB to PBI.

 

[FLYLOW22]

I think this might be number 3 coming up, only this time Local 1108 will be landing on Omaha Beach!!!

Hahha. We already "landed" at OMA once...

 

[Diesel]

and it's about as baren as a beach.

 

[Guitar rocker]

I don't mind doing TEB to PBI.

How bout LEW-3B5?

 

[gunfyter]

a set of cahones.!!!

Eh Molestino...Did you say canollis?

You need to go to Arthur Avenue in the Bronx for canollis

 

[Mike Jenvey]

History, ah, a wonderful subject.... the Boston Tea Party, & all that jazz! How Hollywood changes who did what (like the Enigma decoding machine)....

Seriously though, if only we (UK/Europe) had been able to develop our GA & other flying aspects as the same way in the USA, the up/down battles of pilot availability versus self-funded ratings (or sponsorship, cadet schemes, whatever) would probably have never existed.

In short, you guys fly everywhere - we drive or take the train (unless there are the wrong type of leaves on the line to stop the trains - a frequent excuse from rail providers!). Costs for private flying are prohibitively expensive over here, which is why so many "self-improvers" go the the US for hours building or JAA approved courses. It doesn't help that unless you go the "approved course" route, I think that you need 500 hrs multi for an unfrozen ATPL - great, typical price at a high-end training school is US $415 per hour for something like a Cougar or Seneca II!! Ouch!! Just for a PPL in the UK, you are looking at up to $14K with all the add-ons. In the USA, maybe half the price!! OK, plus flights & accommodation - still a superb deal!!

So, like spelling (colour/color!), we unfortunately have a very different (& expensive) aviation environment over here. We certainly don't like it, but maybe it will change for the better as demand for pilots increases.

 

[Diesel]

3b5 is crap. I can do that in my sleep.

A real man turns SHINY inbound and shoots the Floatplane Sheppard 1 Approach.