NetJets Domicile Update 5/25

[SE-30]

A-V-8,
You could find a room for rent for under $600 in either a shared aparment or a house in the LA area if that's what you want to do. You could find a deal on a guest room if your willing to look around. I just moved out of a place for $525 a month. There is a paper called the Recycler (www.recycler.com) that you could check out and find a place to crash.
Check out the San Fernando valley. You could live near Van Nuys and ride the Flyaway to LAX (parking $4 a day, half hour bus service between VNY and LAX $6 roundtrip)
If you are willing to drive, look at the Recycler for rooms and places in Lancaster/Palmdale and the Inland Empire (Riverside, Ontario, Fontana Banning ect). I just moved to Las Vegas. 5 hours by car.


Hope that helps.

 

[StarHustler]

Ok, got some new info for those that put PBI down as their domicile choice. Apparently, they will be sending out interview email invites in early August for Sept interview dates to fill October classes. This came straight from Ms. Derinda McKinstry. Looking forward to the fall....

 

[Archie Bunker]

Anyone already out in LAX as a new hire that can shed some advice on this subject.

Personally, I don't see how any new hire could afford to live within a reasonable driving distance to LAX on first year pay alone. Anywhere within a 2 hour drive (a reasonable driving distance, IMO) is going to be cost prohibitive unless you're willing to live in a sh*thole, a shared rental arrangement, or your parent's basement. The Vegas commute might be workable for some, but I consider it way too long of a drive, and dealing with the availability of cheap tickets at SWA would be a major pain in the posterior.

The only reason I can afford it here is because I have a military retirement paycheck, and I've been a homeowner in SoCal for years. Otherwise, there is no way I could afford to live here under what I consider decent living conditions.

Also the Citation X pays more for than other planes right?

Nope. 1st year reserve pay is $46K for everyone. If you get the XL/XLS, I believe you receive differences pay...somewhere around $225 a month more. The only aircraft that pay more are the Class 4 (Falcon EX), and the Class 5 (BBJ)....neither of which you will see for a LONG time.

Good luck.

 

[A-V-8]

Amtrak?

The depressing news is that I am still 700 TT away from the min. This is all good info though. What about riding on AMTRAK? Anyone here do that? When I was based in PHL a lot of commuters would do that out of NY when the weather made it impossible to commute.

 

[FLYLOW22]

The depressing news is that I am still 700 TT away from the min. This is all good info though. What about riding on AMTRAK? Anyone here do that? When I was based in PHL a lot of commuters would do that out of NY when the weather made it impossible to commute.

You aren't talking about commuting by train to CMH or LAX from NYC are you??

 

[A-V-8]

You aren't talking about commuting by train to CMH or LAX from NYC are you??

No. I didn’t mean to cause confusion. What I meant was is there a possibility of riding on AMTRAK to LAX from somewhere cheaper to live? It was only like $20 from New York to PHL. Does anyone know of somewhere that this might be a possibility?

 

[Gwadwerc]

Bakersfield is 120 +/- miles. Not sure about cost of living. Does Amtrak have a website? Prob a heck of a lot more reliable info than what you'll get from us.

 

[FLYLOW22]

No. I didn’t mean to cause confusion. What I meant was is there a possibility of riding on AMTRAK to LAX from somewhere cheaper to live? It was only like $20 from New York to PHL. Does anyone know of somewhere that this might be a possibility?

I feel ya bud. I don't wan't anything but HBAs for all of the new guys. For the short term, sure, play the game if ya want but get ready for a knock down drag out on this in the future.

HBAs for everyone will not cost one nickel to this pilot group.

 

[Lou3]

Ok, got some new info for those that put PBI down as their domicile choice. Apparently, they will be sending out interview email invites in early August for Sept interview dates to fill October classes. This came straight from Ms. Derinda McKinstry. Looking forward to the fall....

Good News Star! Thanks for the update!

 

[A-V-8]

Yea you got me there but.....

Bakersfield is 120 +/- miles. Not sure about cost of living. Does Amtrak have a website? Prob a heck of a lot more reliable info than what you'll get from us.

Yes. I have been on the website. What I don’t know is where the places that are ideal to live are. I can find a fare but that does me no real good if it is a fare from somewhere that I can’t afford to live anyway. I have only flown into California a few times. I don’t know my way around at all. If the opportunity to work for Net Jets comes my way I would like to have a back up plan for the LAX base. Just fishing for ideas right now. Would like to have a plan if opportunity knocks. Would hate to turn down a seniority number there because I can’t afford to live and get to work.

 

[BengalsFan]

I dont' know what you consider livable, but a decent 1200-1300 sf house in Riverside is between 325-400k. You can get a townhome for 275-325k, and a condo for 250-300k... obviously you can spend a lot more on something sweet, or you can spend less on something a little more rough... but this is what I've seen price ranges for stuff that is move in ready in Riverside area... San Bernardino is about the same... both are about 50 miles east of LA. Also look at Corona... obvoiusly the further away from the LA and beach area the better the prices. The commute from these places wouldn't be bad on a Sat or Sun, or obviously an extremely early or late show... but I wouldn't want to be one of the folks making this commute as a 9-5er Mon-Fri... I've heard it can take 2+ hours during the rush hours.

 

[Ultra Grump]

...If the opportunity to work for Net Jets comes my way I would like to have a back up plan for the LAX base. Just fishing for ideas right now. Would like to have a plan if opportunity knocks. Would hate to turn down a seniority number there because I can’t afford to live and get to work.

Then designate CMH. WAY cheaper than LAX.

 

[CL604DRVR]

I dont' know what you consider livable, but a decent 1200-1300 sf house in Riverside is between 325-400k. You can get a townhome for 275-325k, and a condo for 250-300k... obviously you can spend a lot more on something sweet, or you can spend less on something a little more rough... but this is what I've seen price ranges for stuff that is move in ready in Riverside area... San Bernardino is about the same... both are about 50 miles east of LA. Also look at Corona... obvoiusly the further away from the LA and beach area the better the prices. The commute from these places wouldn't be bad on a Sat or Sun, or obviously an extremely early or late show... but I wouldn't want to be one of the folks making this commute as a 9-5er Mon-Fri... I've heard it can take 2+ hours during the rush hours.

Well I'm no banker, but a 300K mortage making 39k on a 7 and 7 schedule is gonna be tight.

 

[Going2Baja]

In Riverside there are plenty of places for a gf or wife to dance and bring home enough $$ to make that payment!!!

Good luck!!

Baja.

 

[gunfyter]

Well I'm no banker, but a 300K mortage making 39k on a 7 and 7 schedule is gonna be tight.

This is why this Domicile system makes no sense.You cannot find enough pilots who LIVE in LAX, PBI, or TEB... or could afford to live in any one of those places if they we even willing to move.Of course one or two of the Earthmen who work at CMH say it makes sense because this is where a large portion of our trips originate.DUH... yes weathy folks can afford to live there.Why don't we move Bridgeway to NY or LA and see what you have to pay to get people to work in the Casino there? The cost of living is DOUBLE (at a minimum) compared to CMH.So you are forcing people to COMMUTE 5 hrs. Then after a 5 hr commute statistics show the longest duty day is your first day. Putting you in sleep deficit and fatigued for the remainder of the 7 day tour.

 

[CL604DRVR]

This is why this Domicile system makes no sense.You cannot find enough pilots who LIVE in LAX, PBI, or TEB... or could afford to live in any one of those places if they we even willing to move.Of course one or two of the Earthmen who work at CMH say it makes sense because this is where a large portion of our trips originate.DUH... yes weathy folks can afford to live there.Why don't we move Bridgeway to NY or LA and see what you have to pay to get people to work in the Casino there? The cost of living is DOUBLE (at a minimum) compared to CMH.So you are forcing people to COMMUTE 5 hrs. Then after a 5 hr commute statistics show the longest duty day is your first day. Putting you in sleep deficit and fatigued for the remainder of the 7 day tour.

You hit my situation on the head exactly. The 5 hour drive on day one is a killer, even worse though is a late return to PBI as a flying crewmember. It's 2300 you just worked 13.5 are you driving home. Not me just another night on the road

 

[Diesel]

its amazing no matter how long the day getting in the car and driving home is the only option.

Funny how that is.

During the summer months and sometimes during the winter I drive 5 hours on back country roads to my parents house. It can be brutal. I've only hit one deer.

My advice buy an XM radio and tune it to channel 202

 

[Diesel]

ps the 25 gateways were created because the original couple were not attracting enough pilots.

The same thing is going to happen it just is going to take longer.

Those who don't study history are bound to repeat it.

 

[CL604DRVR]

its amazing no matter how long the day getting in the car and driving home is the only option.

Funny how that is.

During the summer months and sometimes during the winter I drive 5 hours on back country roads to my parents house. It can be brutal. I've only hit one deer.

My advice buy an XM radio and tune it to channel 202

I prefer XM46, but you're right satellite radio is the only way to go.

 

[Ultra Grump]

XM48 The Squizz ROCKS! :beer:

 

[ozpilot]

When I used to commute (3 hours) I went to the local library and borrowed audio books (don't buy them, there $30+). Then I would rip them to my ipod and play those in the car. Anything to help pass the time.

 

[gunfyter]

I have a subscription to Audible.com. 2 Audio books a month for $19. Download them directly onto my TREO650 over the wireless internet.

 

[swampfan]

Get a local library account with download-able audio books and use a program called Tunebite to get them on to your listening device. Very handy program to have if you want to remove some unwanted security features of audio files.

 

[Going2Baja]

Gunfyter - Waiting for my Treo 700. Does your Treo have enough battery to listen to books? Also did you go Bluetooth with yours and who is your provider? My CP can't seem to find a BT that will work and he is switching to Sprint. I'm going to wait for the upgrades of the 700.

Baja.

XM Lucy is my call.

 

[gunfyter]

Battery is good on the TREO 650. Use Sprint.

 

[AirBear8]

Cracker Barrel has audio books on CD and tape (I think) that you can rent. A few years ago my wife and I did a long road trip. The audio books really make the time go by faster. When you finish a book just stop at the next Cracker Barrel and turn it in and get another one if you want.

AirBear

 

[RNObased]

Then designate CMH. WAY cheaper than LAX.

Which goes back to the three rule of real estate... Location, location, location.......... CMH isn't half as nice as LA and I dis-like LA pleanty...

 

[gunfyter]

Which goes back to the three rule of real estate... Location, location, location.......... CMH isn't half as nice as LA and I dis-like LA pleanty...

But the section of LA that you can afford to live in is not as nice as the section of CMH...

 

[Cavpilot]

I'd rather live in the ghetto of SoCal than the best neighborhood of Columbus.

 

[gunfyter]

I see what you mean. Both places need to get real about college football theough...