Netjets - Citation X or Falcon ?

[gunfyter]

I see many SIC openings about to happen in the Falcon and the X. Thats where the most senior bypassed SICs live... who will be bidding to PIC in other airplanes and therefore creating a need for SICs in the Falcon and X.

 

[On Your Six]

I would think that if you are a newhire and you are going to be sitting in your aircraft for many years (3-5 years), you might as well be comfortable - and the F2000 would be a lot more comfortable than alternatives like the Ultra or Beechjet (especially with the FA on the 2000). That's great news for upcoming newhires.

Everyone talks about how hard the X crews work. With its range and versatility, I would imagine the F2000 works pretty hard too (domestically as well as occasional international flights). Is that the case?

 

[flyfish]

The 2000 does similiar trips as the X..and works almost as hard. Having a FA makes life much more tolerable as they relieve the pilots from a ton of work. Both frequently go to Hawaii and the occasionally Europe. But the 2000EX will start picking up most or all the Europe stuff.

 

[FLYLOW22]

The thing that sux about the X is that it can do virtually anything the other fleets can. When an Owner cannot be accomodated with their aircraft, they will be flown on another aircraft of equal or greater size. There are 71 Xs on property. They are sexy too. They are a popular sub. I think there are around 40 or so 2000s. Not enough in number to have several laying around.

The other thing that sux about the X is 750 lbs of baggae in the tail.... the Falcon sux even more... MORE baggage capability.

You are the bag loader. Start working out.

 

[Some guy]

32 F2000's
2 F2000EASy's
More EASy's are coming but deliveries will be slow until Honeywell gets Cert 3 ready to go.
These numbers do not include NJE or NJME

SG

 

[psysicx]

So what is a day like on the 2000? Someone said that the X is coast to coast for 12 hrs for 7 days.

 

[NJAowner]

Griz is right -- but remember, it is usually not intentionally to mess with anyone. Any dynamically changing situation, by definition, just keeps changing. Many times, it may start with me if I have a flight for the evening and cancel it in the morning. The changes snow ball from there.

To use a sports analogy, even though it is just an hour later, can a football coach set his plans, plays and player staffing for the 3rd quarter at 1:00. While there may be a plan, odds are it will not see the light of day as the way the game develops forces a change of strategy.

Fly safe.

 

[BrnJetFuel]

flyfish,
Unfortunately the class starting today was full, which was the last one before the 21st. So I've got to figure out how this is all going to work. looks like after Jan 1st will be my best bet, since I'll have a "little more free time".

WOW!

Welcome aboard!

You guys will forever be known as the "Golden Class". The last class hired before ratification. You'll have all the benefits like those of us who have fought for years, minus seniority, and be able to enjoy HBA.

The million dollar question is, how will the classes hired after you view the "Golden Class"?

Congrats! You guys just pulled "7 7 7".

Look forward to flying with you all.

 

[hydrarkt]

nwbusdrvr,

I'm a new hire from Nov 7th class. Get Falcon out of your mind. It will not happen for a new hire for quite some time. I was offered the X, but turned it down because it is the major WORKHORSE of the fleet. The only other A/C being offered to new hires for the near future is the ULTRA. T
My two cents

Please don't tell me that you chose the Ultra over the X!!!! As someone who flew them both here, I can say that if you did, you will be kicking yourself for a loooong time. The X does work hard. But so does the Ultra, the Excel and most fleets.

If you have a choice between the Falcon and X, take the Falcon. Easy choice. You won't regret it.

 

[FLYLOW22]

If you have a choice between the Falcon and X, take the Falcon. Easy choice. You won't regret it.

You'll never fly Brintey in anything but the Falcon! Oh joy....

 

[Semore Butts]

?????

I thought she was a Hawker owner?

 

[gunfyter]

If you have a choice between the Falcon and X, take the Falcon. Easy choice. You won't regret it.

If you can stand flying that slow....

http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/downloads/CXPromosm.zip

 

[MississippiMud]

Dec 5th class

I just got back from the interview today and I hope to hear something tomorrow. For the Dec 5th class there were only Falcon 2000 and Citation X to offer. After what I have read I think If I have a choice it will be the Falcon. I should know if I have a job with them by tomorrow.

 

[Pervis]

If you can stand flying that slow....

http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/downloads/CXPromosm.zip

5 hrs is 5 hrs-distance doesn't matter. Same time to those 4 walls and a bed, or 8 walls and two beds at the Embassy. Whoopie.

 

[flyfish]

WOW!


You guys will forever be known as the "Golden Class".

You have all been knighted by BurnJetFuel the "King of the Ruby Encrusted Golden Boy Land." It is only he that may bestow such an honor... If you all only knew.