NetJets China Set To Start Ops in Early 2014

[gutshotdraw]

Only if the union allows us to know. Under Weak Union the PoSTA was a complete surprise and shock to a lot of us. Shock and awe I guess.

I'll be on vacation, out of the country, and out of contact when openers begin so I'll either be shocked or awed or maybe even both when I get back in June.

 

[imacdog]

The openers don't matter anyway. We already know the company wants us to work for free and that we want to make more money than the people we're flying around. It's the final TA package that really matters.

 

[G4dude]

The openers don't matter anyway. We already know the company wants us to work for free and that we want to make more money than the people we're flying around. It's the final TA package that really matters.

For me, 800000 a year plus bennies sounds about right.

 

[imacdog]

All you have to do is work on square plates and that salary can be yours.

 

[dime line]

Why enguage G4Dude

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=151143

Look at post number #8, pretty much sums it up

 

[LAZYB]

What he said.

I think you might be talking about the small group of NJI pilots who were furloughed with G-IV types and International experience.

The majority of the NJA furloughed guys have not landed any of these "good jobs in corporate and major/national airline flying" that you refer to.

-Type ratings and time in small or mid-size corporate jets where there has been little or no hiring except for bottom feeder 135 ops. (TMC for one)
-Guys who came over to NJA from the regionals prior to getting the magic 1,000 hours of TPIC.
-Guys that don't have a 4 year degree needed for the majors.
-Guys who came over to NJA after retiring from the military or a major airline and are now around 60. Good luck getting hired at that age.
-The everlasting stink on our resume' from having worked at netjets. (Oh your furloughed from netjets? no thanks- we don't need you.)

There have been several guys that got on with JetBlue, good for them but it's not for everyone.

 

[CE750Driver]

Billybob, I was hoping 750 would be able to answer the riddle without too much assistance. It's important for the learning process to take place.

Sorry, got my boat back in the water and working, and just got back here.

So this is how you act when someone tells you how to get a job that you may be interested in? Looks like NJ dodged a bullet when you were furloughed. Next time, take the info, and do your own homework, instead of yelling that someone else will not do it all for you. You sound like a schoolgirl.

Please find another job quick. The idea of a whiner like you working around me, gives me the shivers, thinking of our customers.

BTW. Obama is gonna fine you if you don't have insurance next year.

 

[CE750Driver]

I'll be on vacation, out of the country, and out of contact when openers begin so I'll either be shocked or awed or maybe even both when I get back in June.

I would guess it will be months after that, until we hear anything. It may be a year, before they even look at pay.

 

[gunfyter]

750,

Agreed. I don't think anything interesting will happen in 2013...

 

[imacdog]

Sorry, got my boat back in the water and working, and just got back here.

So this is how you act when someone tells you how to get a job that you may be interested in? Looks like NJ dodged a bullet when you were furloughed. Next time, take the info, and do your own homework, instead of yelling that someone else will not do it all for you. You sound like a schoolgirl.

Please find another job quick. The idea of a whiner like you working around me, gives me the shivers, thinking of our customers.

BTW. Obama is gonna fine you if you don't have insurance next year.

Well at least you took the classy route when being called out on your incorrect assumptions. May your humble attitude and willingness to keep an open mind help you in your customer service and career endeavors.

 

[CE750Driver]

Well at least you took the classy route when being called out on your incorrect assumptions. May your humble attitude and willingness to keep an open mind help you in your customer service and career endeavors.

I never assumed anything, besides you were whining like a school girl for information I gave you.

Does it matter that you are furloughed NJA doing that? No.

May you learn to know when someone gives you information to help you, not to insult them.

Unfortunately, there is no classy way to do that.

PS. You can keep your career advice to yourself. It seems my way is more profitable.:blush:

 

[imacdog]

Well, you don't have a BB, so you are not at NJA, hence, no relevance.

Don't worry yourself over my career choices there Princess. Go back to your 80 grand a year XL gig, and let people with actual careers and opportunities for advancement have a real conversation.

Neener neener.

......you were saying about not making assumptions?

PS. You can keep your career advice to yourself. It seems my way is more profitable.:blush:

Ah yes, as I was saying about the furloughees getting sold down the river by their former colleagues who don't consider them real NJA pilots anyway....

 

[CE750Driver]

......you were saying about not making assumptions?



Ah yes, as I was saying about the furloughees getting sold down the river by their former colleagues who don't consider them real NJA pilots anyway....

Lol. I was talking about your current job Princess.

I can't help you anymore. I will be sure not to post any info on any other jobs on here, for fear of bringing out your inner schoolgirl.

Good luck.

 

[imacdog]

Go back to your 80 grand a year XL gig, and let people with actual careers and opportunities for advancement have a real conversation.

Neener neener.

Oh, that's right, you assumed that my current job is flying an Excel. I see.

However, we all really appreciate your "Email them yourself, I'm not telling you what I know" info. Good stuff, very informative. Though for someone to gloat about their job after their colleague gets furloughed, I don't know how that's helpful, I mean I'm sure it is, but it must be on a much higher level of help than I can figure.

 

[CE750Driver]

Oh, that's right, you assumed that my current job is flying an Excel. I see.

However, we all really appreciate your "Email them yourself, I'm not telling you what I know" info. Good stuff, very informative. Though for someone to gloat about their job after their colleague gets furloughed, I don't know how that's helpful, I mean I'm sure it is, but it must be on a much higher level of help than I can figure.

I wouldn't bother emailing them. With your level of drive, it would do no good.

 

[imacdog]

Don't be too hard on yourself, 750. I'm just glad this thread helped you remember that NetJets does have pilots on furlough. "The More You Know" and all that.

 

[fischman]

ahhh....


young love....:erm:

 

[gret]

Both of you are better than this nonsense and have contributed valuable comments in the past!

You guys are embarrassing yourselves, and boring us to tears, and should put it to bed.

 

[CE750Driver]

Both of you are better than this nonsense and have contributed valuable comments in the past!

You guys are embarrassing yourselves, and boring us to tears, and should put it to bed.

You are right Gret.

I should have known better than to post where to get factual info, for people who may be interested in a job.

It won't happen again. Promise.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Having just returned from a week in the Orient, I can tell you this:

1. Beijing is an interesting city and shopping at Pearl Market is a hoot and stupid cheap (even for the good stuff), but when you start to taste what you're breathing at 4,000 feet...er, sorry, 1,200 meters, I'm not sure that's where I want to be based. I actually felt bad for the platoon of People's Army soldiers running on the airport perimeter road eating our exhaust fumes (and all the other fun and toxic substances in the Beijing air).

2. If it's Hong Kong or Singapore, I'm IN.

 

[cldsfr79]

I know NJ is just doing a charter jet management approach at first, but I'm sure once they get going, they will start fractional ownership.....BUT.....

I find it interesting that Deer Jet, which has been an established charter outfit in China for sometime now, has just announced fractional ownership on Gulfstream jets.

What many don't know is that in order for a US company as well as other foreign countries to be allowed into China you need to do two things. 1. Have a Chinese sponsor (most likely with ties to the Chinese government) 2. You must turn over all of your propitiatory company information to the Chinese. This may sound nuts, but you are promised big profits. Just when you get started, and things look good for your company, all of a sudden a Chinese competitor (most likely with state owned roots) pops up selling a product that looks suspiciously like yours and even uses your patents but sells it at a fraction of your price. Of course you sue, and while the Chinese court takes forever to get through your case, you are losing tons of money. Finally the Chinese rule that they don't see the similarities in the products and you lose.

So hang in their NJ, but don't be surprised if multiple Chinese fractional/management corporations pop up, do it for less, and drive you from the market. We teach them how to do it, then they turn on us and kick us out.

Hurray for Chinese free enterprise.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Hurray for Chinese free enterprise.

It's more free than ours these days...

 

[gret]

It's more free than ours these days...

You are probably right