Netjets Ad

[ghostrider64]

That's comedy gold right there. :laugh:

Doesn't quite jive with the help wanted ads

 

[Fozzy]

"A new contract is right around the corner".

 

[G4dude]

What is the prevailing opinion about how long a NJA hiree would have to wait to upgrade to captain?

 

[Willy21]

My guess is at least 10 years.

Seniority number of the first new hire will be about 2600. Upgrade line will be about 1600 ie 60/40 split of pic/sic with some credit given for SICs that don't want to upgrade. Then a generous 100 new pic upgrades per year.

I think this is optimistic and subject to change for the better or worse.

 

[T-1GUY]

Large population of forty something's are Captains. (It's the largest demographic). No mandatory retirement age. Shrinking number of airframes. When times were good about a 1.5 percent per year of pilot turn over. I don't know what it is now, but it has increased. (Mostly FO's bailing for better opportunities). Captains currently overstaffed by approximately 400ish based on a sixty/forty percentage split. Please feel free to update my information. I'm not as current as I used to be.

 

[NachoMamma]

What is the prevailing opinion about how long a NJA hiree would have to wait to upgrade to captain?

Mathematically speaking...never. The biggest culprit, no mandatory retirement age. No self respecting pilot will accept this job with the intention of making it a career knowing that. This place will become the "free type rating" revolving door it deserves to be as turnover within the first 2 years for future employees will be near 100%.

 

[T-1GUY]

If you have the qualifications, you would be much better off going to one of the majors. You will upgrade quickly. Lots of mandatory retirements. Crazy movement. Better retirement and salary. Better schedule. Netjets does buy your food for you while working 12-14 hour days. You do the math.

 

[BentOver]

If you have the qualifications, you would be much better off going to one of the majors. You will upgrade quickly. Lots of mandatory retirements. Crazy movement. Better retirement and salary. Better schedule. Netjets does buy your food for you while working 12-14 hour days. You do the math.

Very true....

I make more as a 3rd year FO, bidding reserve, than a top of the scale
"large a/c" 18 day schedule SIC.

And according to the numbers by default we are near the bottom of the pay scale. ( other contracts have surpassed ours luckily)

Get the free type and work on moving up.... Unless of course you live in a really remote area and refuse to commute

 

[gutshotdraw]

A senior G PIC in his late 40's resigned this week. So that's one closer anyway....

 

[acaTerry]

A senior G PIC in his late 40's resigned this week. So that's one closer anyway....

This wouldn't be one who moved from OK to TX would it? I'd hate to see him go but he's thinking about it.

 

[Downwind]

My guess is at least 10 years.

Seniority number of the first new hire will be about 2600. Upgrade line will be about 1600 ie 60/40 split of pic/sic with some credit given for SICs that don't want to upgrade. Then a generous 100 new pic upgrades per year.

I think this is optimistic and subject to change for the better or worse.

I disagree. We're no long a career destination and I expect to see a mass exodus over the next five years to DAL, UAL, or AA. My plan is to put JH and Co. in the rear view mirror.

 

[gutshotdraw]

This wouldn't be one who moved from OK to TX would it? I'd hate to see him go but he's thinking about it.

Not yet. I'm flying with him this week.

The pilot in question married one of our former CMH screen readers. He's heading for a "drier" climate.

 

[G4dude]

My guess is at least 10 years.

Seniority number of the first new hire will be about 2600. Upgrade line will be about 1600 ie 60/40 split of pic/sic with some credit given for SICs that don't want to upgrade. Then a generous 100 new pic upgrades per year.

I think this is optimistic and subject to change for the better or worse.

Wow. Maybe we will lose a lot of captains to the majors. That would help.

 

[Willy21]

I don't see many PICs leaving for the airlines. If there is an exodus it will be from the SICs. Most of which will be topped out on pay without COLA in 2015.

 

[G4dude]

A senior G PIC in his late 40's resigned this week. So that's one closer anyway....

The G fleet seems to have several more old dudes ready to retire. Godspeed!