Netjet billboard @ TEB

[I-R-DXR]

Sorry, but a two week dispatcher course does not make you an expert in aviation.​

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Ive never like the accelerated course. Its a joke.​

I don't claim to be an aviation expert - don't see where in hell you got that idea from. From that Ill tell you I no dam noob either. Ive worked 74 classics down to Ultras. Ive been in the field for well over 10 years now.​

And I'm humble enough to say I still have a lot to learn from a good Captain.​

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[Sun Tzu]

Netjets is raking in the cash with the McMillionaire Jet Cards
Lets look at a Citation X for example

Citation X 25 hour card = $179,000
800 occupied hours per year = 32 cards per year
32 x $179,000 = $ 5,728,000 per year in gross revenue
5 yrs x $5,728,000 = $28,864,000

Hawker 800XP 25 hour card = $159,000
800 occupied hours per year = 32 cards per year
32 x $ 159,000 = $5,088,000 per year in gross revenue
5 yrs X $5,088,000 = $25,440,000

Now show me a charter company that could'nt buy and operate either airframe and not make some serious cash here. That's not taking into any account for residual value after the 5 years. A five year Hawker, refurbished with 6000 airframe hours has to be worth 5 to 6 mil.

Now let's look at the money being funneled to EJM for charter ops, $300 dollar ramp fees, outrageous oil, O2, Lavs, ..... The money sent to FSI for training.

Netjets has been good to pilots in the past when it came to family emergencies and natural disasters. The alternative would have been some really bad press. Behind the scenes he treats us with complete contempt. Reference the expanded gateway/ Fly from home deal for seat locks.

Owner services has been caught in out right whoppers, with no disputing the facts. Pilots, Owners and even ACP/CP have seen it. So go ahead and ignore the facts and keep drinking the Kool Aid. Dollar Bill has to be proud of employees that refuse to look at the facts.

I don't want to go on strike, but the alternative is almost worse. Please let us know where you think the pilots should go from here. You seem to have all the answers so far.

 

[I-R-DXR]

I don't want to go on strike, but the alternative is almost worse. Please let us know where you think the pilots should go from here. You seem to have all the answers so far.

I dont want you to go on strike either. After over 4 years if an agreement has not been made its your legal right to do so.

You seem to have all the answers so far.

**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** Im good, but not that good.

 

[IFlyOU]

i need to take you all out to dinner... that would be a night to remember!

*bad idea*

 

[holden1]

Netjets is raking in the cash with the McMillionaire Jet Cards
Lets look at a Citation X for example

Citation X 25 hour card = $179,000
800 occupied hours per year = 32 cards per year
32 x $179,000 = $ 5,728,000 per year in gross revenue
5 yrs x $5,728,000 = $28,864,000

Hawker 800XP 25 hour card = $159,000
800 occupied hours per year = 32 cards per year
32 x $ 159,000 = $5,088,000 per year in gross revenue
5 yrs X $5,088,000 = $25,440,000

Hold up Sun Tzu - I agree NetJets has been pulling in some interetsing dollars, BUT you are making reference to the Marquis card. As far as I know, this is a separate entity (although speculation says that RS is going to buy the company outright). They are partnerd with Marquis, and no doubt hold some form of equity in the company. However, Marquis is pulling in a good part of the revenue as well.

I think the bigger issue is how much extra time is Marquis putting onto the NJ fleet. If I was a NJ owner and realized my residual value would fall b/c my a/c was being overused OR I was not getting a QS tail very often, I would be bull*&^!!

Anymore insights on this?

Holden1

 

[x402]

Hold up Sun Tzu - I agree NetJets has been pulling in some interetsing dollars, BUT you are making reference to the Marquis card. As far as I know, this is a separate entity (although speculation says that RS is going to buy the company outright). They are partnerd with Marquis, and no doubt hold some form of equity in the company. However, Marquis is pulling in a good part of the revenue as well.

I think the bigger issue is how much extra time is Marquis putting onto the NJ fleet. If I was a NJ owner and realized my residual value would fall b/c my a/c was being overused OR I was not getting a QS tail very often, I would be bull*&^!!

Marquis LEASES time from NJA Sales, on what ever a/c they want to sell cards on. They have oversold this beyond belief. We don't have the planes if you parse out the card totals, we sell off and we fly the piss out of the owners planes.
Marquis makes what Netjets lets them. Period.

 

[Diesel]

Hey a$$ clown before you copy and paste why don't you get the quote right. that wasn't me who said it but you seem to like to distort the facts to fit your view.

If you don't care about financial reports on this or any company man you've really got your head in the sand. Good employees read the financial reports. It gives them an outlook on what is really happening, not in just their company but other companies around them.

Use the search button. NJ data is posted when the annual reports come out. I don't feel like looking I've already read it.

So call me a troll all you want. With your 23 posts and 99 percent of them have been stirring the pot. Take a look at my 800+ posts. Some people might not agree with me, and I've been a d!ck in some of them, I've helped in others, but i am not a troll.

 

[I-R-DXR]

Diesel

My postings were not directed toward you in any way. I simply stated a reference to your thought from a comment from DispatcherNJ. Thats all. The post was toward Some Dude - not you.

If it was toward you I would have taen the time to copy&paste your exact statement. It was not. Some Dude has directly threatend the lives of every Crew member and flight center worker.

Hey a$$ clown before you copy and paste why don't you get the quote right. that wasn't me who said it but you seem to like to distort the facts to fit your view.

If you don't care about financial reports on this or any company man you've really got your head in the sand. Good employees read the financial reports. It gives them an outlook on what is really happening, not in just their company but other companies around them.

Use the search button. NJ data is posted when the annual reports come out. I don't feel like looking I've already read it.

So call me a troll all you want. With your 23 posts and 99 percent of them have been stirring the pot. Take a look at my 800+ posts. Some people might not agree with me, and I've been a d!ck in some of them, I've helped in others, but i am not a troll.

 

[El Chupacabra]

No Diesel is not a troll.


Here is what is happening though.

Union publishes 6S. Reason is to allay any concerns of other company employees.

Company Response to 6S -- reason is to turn others against us.

Somebody who says is from flight center posts criticizing the Union statement by cut and paste straght from the Companys propaganda... like we had not already seen it. Even buys the company line that we charge owners $1 for every $3 a chartered selloff costs. (How do charter companys survive overcharging their customers so much?)


Now some of our pilots lose their cool and attack other departments in the company.

You just fell right into managements trap!

Do not criticize other departments. The MEC has asked you not to do this.

 

[I-R-DXR]

If you don't care about financial reports on this or any company man you've really got your head in the sand. Good employees read the financial reports. It gives them an outlook on what is really happening, not in just their company but other companies around them.

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I see how the company does in my own way. What is the company doing?​

hiring? layoffs? buying? Whats the mood of the company? Whats every ones outlook?​

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[Diesel]

Hey it's aviation. If it weren't disfunctional it wouldn't be any fun.

 

[I-R-DXR]

LOL

You are right in the financials though. Maybe Ill look them up some time.

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[El Chupacabra]

Hmmm

It has not been fun for a while....

I never thought anyone could do it... but they sure do know how to take the fun out of flying.

 

[netjetwife]

Granted, these are not fun times, but--

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