Net Jets to Furlough 500...??? Right...

[DUATS]

From the idiocy of his statements ... one would have to conclude B19 is really Joe Biden. Could there really be TWO people in the universe that dumb?

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Can you say "Dan Quayle"?

 

[gunfyter]

From the idiocy of his statements ... one would have to conclude B19 is really Joe Biden. Could there really be TWO people in the universe that dumb?

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Can you say "Dan Quayle"?

Sorry... Dan Quayle is no Jack Kennedy but he is also no Joe Biden ....

 

[B19 Flyer]

This one sentence really is proof that B19 is a paid union buster. If he really was in management and believed this, then he is severely overestimating his own intelligence level. Since he's probably not as stupid in real life as he seems on this message board, the only logical explanation behind statements like this is that he is paid to write them, whether he believes them or not.

Netjets is overstaffed not only to projected hiring, but staffing levels higher than industry average. NJ is paying for this mess, not the union.

All of you said this could never happen, but it did, didn't it?

 

[imacdog]

Still nary a mention of the world economy I see, sigh. Dear B19, would you mind explaining why the other jet fractional companies with no union and no CBA have furloughed? Surely with no restrictive CBA in place, those companies should have been able to staff their companies perfectly. After all, it can't have anything to do with the severe downturn in private aviation as a whole.

 

[B19 Flyer]

They don't have a CBA to fight with.

Still nary a mention of the world economy I see, sigh. Dear B19, would you mind explaining why the other jet fractional companies with no union and no CBA have furloughed? Surely with no restrictive CBA in place, those companies should have been able to staff their companies perfectly. After all, it can't have anything to do with the severe downturn in private aviation as a whole.

All of you blamed the industry downturn of the legacy carriers and bankruptcies on poor management 7 years ago, not the economy. Now you blame it on the economy? 7 years ago the industry leading contracts and poor economy had more to do than bad management.

History is about to repeat itself. An industry leading contract coupled with a downturn in the economy is creating havoc at NJ, and NJ is paying for it. It will unfortunatly get worse before it gets better, and I predict that the industry leading contract will be cut back to reality just like the legacy carriers were. All the other fracs have to do is stand pat... they've already circled the wagons. They don't have a CBA to fight with.

 

[brokeflyer]

relax sunshine.....it wont effect you at all.

 

[Hogprint]

B*skanza posted:

An industry leading contract coupled with a downturn in the economy is creating havoc at NJ, and NJ is paying for it.

Havoc? What havoc? Can you show an example of this? Everything I've seen out of the company and the union has been to HELP OUR PEOPLE. Nothing more, nothing less. If you have any "insider" info, do tell.

BTW you haven't answered my NJASAP recruiting question...

It's easy to predict self fulfilling prophecies. Quite another thing to back up blatant lies.

 

[brokeflyer]

i wouldnt read too much into anything he posts about netjets, he don't really know anything more than the average line guy.

 

[imacdog]

relax sunshine.....it wont effect you at all.

Union-busting does seem like one of the more recession-proof businesses.

 

[imacdog]

All the other fracs have to do is stand pat... they've already circled the wagons. They don't have a CBA to fight with.

They've done more than just stand pat; they've laid off workers. Why is that when they never had a CBA to "force the company into overstaffing"?

 

[gunfyter]

They've done more than just stand pat; they've laid off workers. Why is that when they never had a CBA to "force the company into overstaffing"?

Its the NJ Union fault the others furloughed.

They had to increase their pay and benefits to be competitive with NJ ... so now they have to furlough..

If not for the NJ CBA ... these companies could have kept pay lower and not had to furlough.:laugh:

 

[RNObased]

i wouldnt read too much into anything he posts about netjets, he don't really know anything more than the average line guy.

Correction; He knows less then the average line pilot.

 

[DO-82 driver]

.........repeat post.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Let's not toot our horns too early here. I'm waiting to see what June 12th brings.

Nearly everyone I know is doing something to help out.

At the very least, no one can say the pilots at NJ's didn't sacrifice something so that at least SOME pilot jobs were spared. I have a feeling that not all will be.

I'm sorry that the other Frac pilots at the other companies were given the opportunity by their management teams to do the same.

I'm sure many would have contributed to the cause and save jobs.

 

[AvroJockey]

...you won't talk about the fact that the union at NJ has cost the company millions of dollars and forced an overstaffing of the company which in turn is putting pilots out of work, voluntary or not.

Tell me why, exactly, do you care what happens at NJA?

Also...since when did the union force NJA to sign a contract that's costing them millions of dollars? Never mind the fact those employees provide the essential resource to do business.

The last time I checked every employee in this fine nation is in a contract with their employer for employment. (That means you too!) Just so happens the fine aviators at NetJets choose to represent themselves as a group. That is truly the only difference. If you don't like that, and prefer at-will employment, then don't work at NJA. Seems pretty simple to me.

I'm not a big union guy, and sometimes I look at my union dues deduction and say to myself..."Man, thats a box of Montecristo White Labels!" But at the end of the day that money goes to a great organization that does a ton of good outside of just the CBA.

Your posts shine light on your intelligence and maturity. I would stop digging now, because you're in an ignorance hole bordering on idiocy.