Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
  • Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
  • Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
  • Share the passion for aviation
  • Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun

Net Jets Offers

Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
  • Invite your friends
  • Share the passion of aviation
  • Friendliest aviation community on the web
Bad Monkey! said:
I have better job offers that I have turned down, why? because it's personal now. I'm taking a stand for every pilot out there. If our pay goes up, which it will, it will raise the bar. After 20 years of the Frank Lorenzo's, Carl Ichon's, and Robert Crandall's destroying our profession it's now time to fight the fight and make management realize that the professional pilots will not tolerate anymore bullsh!t.

If this is accurate, then you're just foolish.

You should never let emotion get in the way of your decision making.
 
FAcFriend said:
UG- how much has the NBAA salary scale changed for the same time period. How much has the pay scale for other pilots changed during the same period.

I dont know-does anyone?
I don't know. I don't have access to NBAA data. Doesn't matter much anyway, we don't get paid anywhere near NBAA average.

Plus using 4.5% cpi only works when the CPI is under 4.5%- if it was over 4>%% and you had negotiatd 4.5 you would be trying to go back to the table for more because it wasnt acurate. Good strategy but very transparent.
Whatever. :rolleyes: We don't have a COLA in the CBA, so again it doesn't much matter. What figure would you use? 2.7%? Much more chance of CPI going higher than that than 4.5%. Your argument doesn't hold water (nothing new there...).

Lots of people are underpaid...or think they are..the true test of whether or not you are underpaid is to go look for another job. You dont have to take it, but if you look and dont get any offers for better jobs, then you are probably not underpaid.
Let's say you are a full-time burger flipper at Super Burger making $6 per hour. If all the other burger flippers in town are paid $8/hour, then by definition you are underpaid. Do you just suck it up and say "Oh well, that's the best I can do?" Or do you do whatever you can to get a raise so your pay is on par with all the other burger-flippers in town? What would you do? I know what I would do.
 
Bad Monkey! said:
FAcFriend
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 208


Aircraft Experience: friends and family
Flight Experience: both
Ratings: none






One of my friends just left NutJets and starting pay is $120,000 yr. they bought his old house and paid him to move, paying for training, and paid him a nice signing bonus.

Yes, NutJets pays the least, because we suck the least.

I have better job offers that I have turned down, why? because it's personal now. I'm taking a stand for every pilot out there. If our pay goes up, which it will, it will raise the bar. After 20 years of the Frank Lorenzo's, Carl Ichon's, and Robert Crandall's destroying our profession it's now time to fight the fight and make management realize that the professional pilots will not tolerate anymore bullsh!t.

It's happing in every industry right now. Your job at McDonald's will be farmed out. When you pull up to the drive-up menu you will be connected to a worker in Banglagore.

Would you like flys with dat?

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm talking to a management mole with no experience.

Loser!


Interesting that we both seem to have been around this thing for roughly the same length of time, give or take, and have such different perspectives. You seem to be willing to sacrifice a better paycheck to "fight the good fight" and stand up to the "Ichan's, Lorenzo's, and Crandell's" of this industry. Do you really believe, for one moment, that passing up an opportunity to make 120K elsewhere is going to make any signifigant impact? Quite the opposite! By remaining in place you perpetuate the status quo. I'm sorry for you, I really am. You clearly do not understand the nature of capitalism, the overwhelming operative force in this country. Is it that your involvement with the socialistic aspects of unionism have so clouded your ability to reason, along with your fellows, that you cannot see the granite in the cloud just ahead? Honestly I really don't understand this mindset. Enlighten me. Please. If you can. Please!
 

Latest resources

Back
Top