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Ultra Grump said:
Say whatever you want if it makes you feel better. I sat there and watched it happen. I watched him access the daily schedules of all coast-to-coast aircraft in our fleet and NJI's. He assigned the trip to an NJI G without consulting anyone.

Sorry, Gump. I have to disagree with you on this one. If we want to use a NJI aircraft for a trip we have to call the NJI schedulers for approval. It's their fleet. Sometimes they say yes and sometimes they can't help us. It's their call, not ours.

Sure we can see their (NJI) entire fleet. We can also see all of EJM, NJE, NJME and our vendors if we select the correct view in IJet. NJI, EJM, NJE and NJME can also see NJA's fleet and request to use our aircraft for flights. But, each division has it's own schedulers that make the final call.
 
Sarka-

Lets take it one step further. Say you're scheduling ultras. You don't have any control over who is doing the X's. Sure you can see the planes but you still have to ask the day of scheduler in X's to use one of their planes.

Same principle.
 
Diesel said:
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THEY KISSED THEIR WIFE GOODBYE AND WALKED OUT THE DOOR FOR 7 DAYS.

AAAAwwwwwww! Your choice.
 
Diesel said:
Sarka-

Lets take it one step further. Say you're scheduling ultras. You don't have any control over who is doing the X's. Sure you can see the planes but you still have to ask the day of scheduler in X's to use one of their planes.

Same principle.

Similar, yes, but not exactly Diesel. Schedule Planning (24-48 hr out) has schedulers by fleet (control of indivdual fleets). Day of (SOC) scheduler (and Air Boss) has control over all fleets.

You are right about the Ultra planner needing to ask the X scheduler to some degree, but there is a Schedule Planning supervisor that can overide and make the final decision on any fleet.

We all cooperate with each other as much as possible and try to help each other out, but it still is the responsibility of each individual scheduling group for NJA, NJI, EJM, NJE, NJME and Vendor Ops to control which flights they cover or not.

I'm not trying to take any sides here Diesel, just telling you like it is to clearify any misunderstandings or mis-information.
 
Sarka....you said that if WE want to use NJI a/c for a trip WE have to call the NJI schedulers and get permission.....just out of curiosity, can we do the same with CS a/c or FLOP's a/c or Flex a/c? Are they on your speed dial?

Yet another point to prove the single carrier relationship between NJA and NJI.

I do appreciate the explanation of how the scheduling process works though....I think we need more of these explanations so everyone, in all departments, realize how the other side of the house works.....
 
BE200Driver said:
AAAAwwwwwww! Your choice.

It IS all about choice. At my second job rehabbing houses this weekend I talked to a guy that is pitching in as a favor (doesn't need the scratch). He drives a truck during the week and has one week on and one week off.

He is away from his family as much as I am.

He makes $2000 a week. I make $2000 a month.

Hmmmmm.

STMFD!!!!
 
DO-82 driver said:
....you said that if WE want to use NJI a/c for a trip WE have to call the NJI schedulers and get permission.....just out of curiosity, can we do the same with CS a/c or FLOP's a/c or Flex a/c? Are they on your speed dial?.....

We have similiar working relationships with NJI that we have with vendors. The biggest difference is NJI is our sister company. Pretty basic stuff. It doesn't make us single carrier. If the boss doesn't want a single carrier for his company's who has the right to tell him otherwise?
 
wolfpackpilot said:
2 can play this game:

Why are BBJ FO's making so much more than NJI FO's when they freguently fly many of the same routes or substitute for each other?




Answer: its called the food chain

Cant we all just get along?
 
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hydrarkt said:
Really??? Gee, that's not what was told to me by the several pilots from EJM who were FURLOUGHED.

To bad they didn't work for the unionized majors, they never have that problem there.
 

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