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[RNObased]

RNO, how can you write it off before you even see

Logic says that they know what it will take to get a respectable return for the invest of their time.

I'm not writing it off yet. However from what I have seen and the numbers that have been leaked, they are off the mark. We will see what happens. But please don't give me a lecture about they know what they are doing, they know what we want, little sick of hearing it. I hope they do, because the fall out will be UGLY if they present a POS to us.

Logic and NJA mangement, huh you don't hear those words together too often. Logic aside, history says they will low ball us like they always do.

 

[netjetwife]

I'm not writing it off yet. However from what I have seen and the numbers that have been leaked, they are off the mark. Maybe they're saving the best for last? As in the final offer... I prefer to think optimistically. We will see what happens. True. The IBB team is in the home stretch and working hard. Right now I think that no news is good news. But please don't give me a lecture about they know what they are doing, they know what we want, little sick of hearing it. I hope they do, because the fall out will be UGLY if they present a POS to us. Not lecturing-- just expressing my opinion that I think those at the table are smart enough to predict the reaction a "POS" would bring. I don't believe they'd waste their time doing that. Logic and NJA mangement, huh you don't hear those words together too often. Mr. Gorman was a logical choice so perhaps they're learning... Logic aside, history says they will low ball us like they always do. The pilots stood up for themselves in 2005 so I think they'll be taken seriously now.

Given the past history, it will take time for a complete culture change throughout the company, but IBB is a good opportunity to mend fences and those at the table are surely aware of that aspect of the project. That is the logic that I'm referring to and I think it bodes well for all involved.

 

[hopalong]

Do you all think we will even see anything presented come 10/1????

 

[RNObased]

Given the past history, it will take time for a complete culture change throughout the company, but IBB is a good opportunity to mend fences and those at the table are surely aware of that aspect of the project. That is the logic that I'm referring to and I think it bodes well for all involved.

Time will tell....

 

[Guitar Guy]

Do you all think we will even see anything presented come 10/1????

A few days ago, BO's prognostication was a 50/50 chance. However, an MEC member felt that the chances were considerably higher or, as he said, he wouldn't continue working so hard on the process.

Personally, I'm about 95% confident that we'll see something next Monday. I think both sides have put a lot of effort into IBB and want to see something come out of negotiations. I also think that senior management realizes that to go this far with so many expectations raised would cause a lot of grief and resentment if a TA wasn't reached.

But that's just my $0.02.

Now, if you want a guess on the likelihood of ratification, you'll need to wait a week or so. Despite all of the banter on the union board, none of us have seen the final document.

 

[hopalong]

Thanks Guitar Guy. I hope you are right.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Based on a recent conversation with someone who KNOWS, work is continuing in Woodbridge and Columbus and will continue through the weekend. You should have something to actually read Monday.

 

[netjetwife]

According to my favorite source (who won't be coming home this weekend) work will continue right up to the last minute. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes them all day Monday to wrap it up. Guitar Guy I'll take your 95% and raise it by 4.9%... Adjusted for any unforeseen melt down at the table...

 

[Ultra Grump]

Last time around the most junior on the list did rather poorly. My first grader calls it taking turns... hint, hint.

So now it's the pre-rat guys' turn to do rather poorly? Tell your first-grader to mind his own business.

The money is there...

Not yet, it's not. There had better be a LOT more than what was hinted at earlier to justify all the regression for the pre-rats.

 

[jonjuan]

There had better be a LOT more than what was hinted at earlier to justify all the regression for the pre-rats.

Or what???