need help on salary for FO on Legacy

[LegacyDriver]

Thanks, bro, for the sentiments.

The sad thing is I would take a job flying a Legacy (or anything else for that matter) at $50K a year and feel like *I* hit the lottery because it would be four times what I make now and at least double the next best offer I've had so far.

The Legacy isn't the issue. (Besides, I find it ironic to hear corporate guys b*tch about Regional Jets when the first RJ was a former corporate jet that "turned cobra" on the whole shooting match.) Every job in every industry pays less than it used to. Legacy or no, RJ or no, the salaries would have tanked.

The last two Legacy gigs I interviewed for started at $95K and $105K (for the left seat). The non-EMB jobs were $37K (for a jet f/o), $40K (for a jet f/o), and $40K (for a piston twin PIC).
You can always go to a regional for $17K a year if you want...

Right now $50K looks awfully good cuz child support doesn't pay itself.

And yes the market is catching on. The Legacy is an unqualified success. The 650 is going to be a huge hit. EMB will continue to take market share from Falcon and the rest because right now they build a better, more durable, more reliable, lower cost airplane. Someday someone will build one better than they do and so on, but the market, as bad as it is right now, recognizes a good thing in the Legacy, Phenom, etc.

Oh, and I heard about those Falcon hires. Bit my tongue off so as not to post another rant. My friends said not to bother wasting the effort. *sigh*

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Gotta do what ya gotta do.

Try exercising your Falcon rating prior to the worthless EMB rating...even if you still need serious work on those crosswinds -

37K to fly a plane?.........F that, never happening.

Hang in there.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Gotta do what ya gotta do.

Try exercising your Falcon rating prior to the worthless EMB rating...even if you still need serious work on those crosswinds -

37K to fly a plane?.........F that, never happening.

Hang in there.

I've tried. Yes, I actually applied for Falcon jobs. *shudder*

Crosswinds no big deal now. CRJCA showed us all how to do it right. But I can land a Legacy in much higher winds than a Falcon can handle and I like that capability. Six feet three inches wingtip-to-ground clearance on the EMB. Gotta' love that.

The sad thing is that a lot of us would think $37K a year a goldmine at this point. Anything to get out of flying 152s in the middle of the summer!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I've tried. Yes, I actually applied for Falcon jobs. *shudder*

Crosswinds no big deal now. CRJCA showed us all how to do it right. But I can land a Legacy in much higher winds than a Falcon can handle and I like that capability. Six feet three inches wingtip-to-ground clearance on the EMB. Gotta' love that.

The sad thing is that a lot of us would think $37K a year a goldmine at this point. Anything to get out of flying 152s in the middle of the summer!

well LD......I love ya and all, but for starters ya gotta stop landing a jet like a 152 in a crosswind.

 

[LegacyDriver]

well LD......I love ya and all, but for starters ya gotta stop landing a jet like a 152 in a crosswind.

Depends on the jet, jackazz. For Falcons I agree with you. However, dipping a wing if you can is an advantage. Nothing like rolling down a runway in a jet on one main gear like a B-17 at an airshow. BOOYAH!

LOL

 

[NCherches]

...I flew with a guy who 'Slipped' a jet on final to reduce airspeed with passengers. WTF

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Depends on the jet, jackazz. For Falcons I agree with you. However, dipping a wing if you can is an advantage. Nothing like rolling down a runway in a jet on one main gear like a B-17 at an airshow. BOOYAH!

LOL

Don't try that in the FBW Falcons LD....or the upcoming FBW Globals, etc etc..

 

[LegacyDriver]

Don't try that in the FBW Falcons LD....or the upcoming FBW Globals, etc etc..

I wouldn't even dip the wing in the 50. No room. Great way to scrape a tip off. As it were, I can land my Legacy in more than twice the x-wind you can in your Falcone, pen-day-joe. And I don't have to worry about running a wingtip through a snowbank when some idiot ramper tries to plow me through one, either. So there.


I slipped an EMB once when I didn't know any better (I was a total noob). Airplane didn't seem to mind but the Captain was sure to politely inform me that you don't fly a jet that way. HA HA HA.



FBW Global? Really? Didn't know that was coming. I obviously don't pay attention any more since I will be working at Wal-Mart for the forseeable future any way...

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I can land my Legacy in more than twice the x-wind you can in your Falcone, pen-day-joe. And I don't have to worry about running a wingtip through a snowbank either. So there.




I slipped an EMB once when I didn't know any better (I was a total noob). Airplane didn't seem to mind but the Captain was sure to politely inform me that you don't fly a jet that way. HA HA HA.



FBW Global? Really? Didn't know that was coming. I obviously don't pay attention any more since I will be working at Wal-Mart for the forseeable future any way...

I'd guess about 35kts direct xwind is all I have had the chance to land a Falcon in (50/900ex/7X)...and really, it was a non-event like most jets. You can dip a wing just as you sensibly would in any swept-wing jet.

In fact, I only know of ONE infamous internet pilot who has had some girly issues with a little bitty crosswind in a Falcon...:blush:

 

[LegacyDriver]

I'd guess about 35kts direct xwind is all I have had the chance to land a Falcon in (50/900ex/7X)...and really, it was a non-event like most jets. You can dip a wing just as you sensibly would in any swept-wing jet.

In fact, I only know of ONE infamous internet pilot who has had some girly issues with a little bitty crosswind in a Falcon...:blush:

Well at least Dassault finally pulled their heads out of their arses and gave you footpedal steering. That sure helps. To land a 50 in that kinda' wind you need a third hand for the stupid tiller.

You also have about a foot more clearance for the wingtip in the 7X vs the 50. Still nowhere close to the mighty EMB but they're catching on.......slowly.

I don't know anyone but you dumb enough ( )to land a 50 with 35 knots direct cross... That would be like a NASCAR rodeo.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Well at least Dassault finally pulled their heads out of their arses and gave you footpedal steering. That sure helps. To land a 50 in that kinda' wind you need a third hand for the stupid tiller.

You also have about a foot more clearance for the wingtip in the 7X vs the 50. Still nowhere close to the mighty EMB but they're catching on.......slowly.

Very little clearance on 7X tips during landing as its a very swept wing. It is, however, an airplane you land flat, if not with a little push. Again, non-event.

Nose high, wing down, opposite rudder on 9 mile final xwind landings are good for 152's and Embarears, not for jets.

I never needed to quickly jump on the tiller in xwinds in any Falcon, and it would scare the crap outta me if someone did.

You are gettin there my son, a little more pattern work in that 152 and I swear, its gonna click!

PS - I would appreciate an invite to your first solo!

 

[spxdriver]

I don't know anyone but you dumb enough ( )to land a 50 with 35 knots direct cross... That would be like a NASCAR rodeo.

If I'm not mistaken, LD, you gave a 30 knot crosswind a try once, didn't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsownnIn0fs

 

[LegacyDriver]

Very little clearance on 7X tips during landing as its a very swept wing. It is, however, an airplane you land flat, if not with a little push. Again, non-event.

Nose high, wing down, opposite rudder on 9 mile final xwind landings are good for 152's and Embarears, not for jets.

I never needed to quickly jump on the tiller in xwinds in any Falcon, and it would scare the crap outta me if someone did.

You are gettin there my son, a little more pattern work in that 152 and I swear, its gonna click!

PS - I would appreciate an invite to your first solo!

I'm sorry but I'm laughing so hard at this post I can't reply!

 

[LegacyDriver]

If I'm not mistaken, LD, you gave a 30 knot crosswind a try once, didn't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsownnIn0fs

EXACTLY!!! 50s SUCK in X-Winds!

LOL!

YEEEE HAA! Great video.

 

[LegacyDriver]

If I'm not mistaken, LD, you gave a 30 knot crosswind a try once, didn't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsownnIn0fs

BTW, d*chebag, did you ever con that absolutely hot, beautiful, intelligent, out-of-your-league girl to marry you??? I didn't get an invite to the wedding so I'm a little bit hurt.

Tell Dilf and her gorgeous mom I said hello!