My thoughts

[SDCFI]

I heard it was 75 differences training. Forgive my ignorance, but why are the most junior pilots on the list upgrading?

Believe me they're NOT upgrading! So far there is a growing group of Capts and FOs that in theory anyway are being assigned to crew the 75 only. The rest of the 40/45 pilots, including those that came over from FO are being run through differences training as they cycle through either short or long recurrent. Not sure exactly what the fleet plan is but the 40s are going away it seems sooner rather than later. They may keep some people in the 40/45 as the fleet winds down but everyone else will start flying the 75 as more come on line. Just to reiterate the FO pilots that came over are technically FOs in either the 40/45 or 75. Does it really matter though? I mean they kept their pay which is higher than what FJ FOs are making and we're all wearing 4 stripes now anyway.

 

[V1 Rotate]

Restore the image? Latest info is that 2 of the FO pilots failed their 6 month rides. I hope that the professional Flex pilots realize these pilots were selected by Kenn. The majority of FO pilots are trying to raise the level of professionalism over here but we have our obstacles as well. Kenn will not be happy to learn about this because these pilots were to be the ones spreading his "vision".

Same ones that struggled initial are now bombing six months later.

I heard it was 75 differences training. Forgive my ignorance, but why are the most junior pilots on the list upgrading?

The 75 isn't an "upgrade," Just differences. When they ask for volunteers to go over to it, any 45 pilot can apply. If you can hold it, you get it. The problem is, if you can't comprehend the 45, then you have no business being in the 75.

 

[exagony]

Heard the IBT filed a lawsuit the other day. Any truth to this?

 

[dime line]

Heard the IBT filed a lawsuit the other day. Any truth to this?

yes...

 

[exagony]

Good for them! I hope they prevail!

 

[Brit]

Best of luck to all! I hope you stay the course and are victorious.

 

[UncleKenn]

I will do almost anything to star in my own video. I always dreamed of myself as a movie star.
https://vimeo.com/138994885

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Ok Mr. Moviestar, I see you didn't like your cameo appearance and will be producing, not one but two!, of your own dog and pony show videos. You claim the videos will be a question and answer session with "union supporters". Your hand-picked "union supporters" never were real union supporters. And how are these pilots going to be rewarded? With a back door deal that bypasses seniority and puts a junior guy in the left seat in a G-450. Very sad that you can't see you have sold your soul...

 

[luckydog]

You paint with a very broad stoke Cabbie.

You should be careful who you're calling names. Since you don't actually work here I'll tell you... the FJ guys are straight up guys, and you look like a fool for saying otherwise.

That aside, I can't see any practical purpose for this production. KR is great at saying things that didn't happen, aren't happening now, and will never happen. It's easy to promise the moon if you're never held accountable.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

It doesn't bother me that you want to discount what I said. Can you enlighten me with what is really going on?

 

[luckydog]

It doesn't bother me that you want to discount what I said. Can you enlighten me with what is really going on?

I'm equally unconcerned that your characterization of 2 guys you've never even met makes you sound like an uniformed paranoid zealot. It's your choice.

I have no idea why KR has dreamed up this little drama. I personally don't see how more talk will change anyone's stance. The company folks will listen and hear what they need to hear, the union followers will call every word a half-truth, empty promise, or outright lie. Nothing will change.

I also don't know what the guys picked for this are thinking. I'd guess they want help the pilot group get some answers. Altruism isn't dead at FJ, at least not yet.

Btw: please let us know how it goes when you call FW a backstabbing sellout to his face.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

I don't really care if you think I sound like an uninformed paranoid zealot. I'm trying to get answers and your reply has fallen short.

 

[luckydog]

I don't really care if you think I sound like an uninformed paranoid zealot. I'm trying to get answers and your reply has fallen short.

If you're looking for a real answer on this forum you are even more uniformed than I thought. If you want a real informed answer to your question, call Kenn. He's the only one that knows what's going on is his head, everyone else would be just guessing.

Or, call Frank and ask him what's up. I'm sure he'll be happy to gently inform you of your mis-characterization.

 

[doh]

Frank is a stand up guy, trying to be stand up again. It pains me to see him used as a Tool in this manner.

 

[Imissmypilot]

You paint with a very broad stoke Cabbie.

You should be careful who you're calling names. Since you don't actually work here I'll tell you... the FJ guys are straight up guys, and you look like a fool for saying otherwise.

Do we even really know who the Flexjet guys are for sure? I envision a change or 5 before tape time. I know of several who were asked and turned it down flat so they are going down a long list. It really says something they are having to dig so deep to find 2 guys willing.

I also know one of the "announced" never agreed and feels forced into it. It will be interesting to see how he handles it come video day. I disagree with you on the straight up part. One who is willing to do something publicly but groan behind closed doors is not straight up. As for the other, well, that just not an accurate term for someone notoriously willing to put themselves first before anyone, ever.

No disrespect, I like them both but not sure by the definition of "straight up" they qualify.