My Save Asa Plan

Crash Pad

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Not that we need saving but...

1. We give up our profit bonus.
2. Take that money and put it in a pool.
3. Then offer it as a lump sum to anyone who wants to retire. Require 15 years of experience 55 years of age or whatever you like.
4. Divide the sum by the number who take the offer. Minimum 10 per quarter.

Results: We all move up ten or so numbers a quarter. Line holders get higher hour/better lines. FO's get a shot at upgrade. Old Captains that suck can leave with honor. We sap up our pilot surplus. Exciting vacation vacancies mid year. Pilot group stays junior and we don't have to get PBS.

One downside. We lose a couple of hundred bucks a quarter. Should be made up with schedule improvement.

Allow the pilots a quarterly vote on the offer. If hiring picks up and we move up seniority at a good clip then we can go back to taking the money.

Just a thought.
 

Texx

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Not that we need saving but...

1. We give up our profit bonus.
2. Take that money and put it in a pool.
3. Then offer it as a lump sum to anyone who wants to retire. Require 15 years of experience 55 years of age or whatever you like.
4. Divide the sum by the number who take the offer. Minimum 10 per quarter.

Results: We all move up ten or so numbers a quarter. Line holders get higher hour/better lines. FO's get a shot at upgrade. Old Captains that suck can leave with honor. We sap up our pilot surplus. Exciting vacation vacancies mid year. Pilot group stays junior and we don't have to get PBS.

One downside. We lose a couple of hundred bucks a quarter. Should be made up with schedule improvement.

Allow the pilots a quarterly vote on the offer. If hiring picks up and we move up seniority at a good clip then we can go back to taking the money.

Just a thought.
Take all pilots under 25 years old and have them move back in with their mommies, some already do. This means no rent, food or laundry bills. Also, reduce their pay by 4 per hour.

Yeah, that's the ticket!
 

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Take all pilots under 25 years old and have them move back in with their mommies, some already do. This means no rent, food or laundry bills. Also, reduce their pay by 4 per hour.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

How bout....no...
 

sweptback

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How about we fly the planes and leave the "saving" to management?
 

Crash Pad

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I thought senior people would be happy to take a couple hundred thousand and walk.
 

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I thought senior people would be happy to take a couple hundred thousand and walk.

Nah, they like to make the children sit reserve for as long as possible.
 

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Take all pilots under 25 years old and have them move back in with their mommies, some already do. This means no rent, food or laundry bills. Also, reduce their pay by 4 per hour.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Or just have them work over in the GO, they just graduated from college, they know everything, this could really help us...
 

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Or just have them work over in the GO, they just graduated from college, they know everything, this could really help us...
Man Smacktard your right.

What was that saying by Dirty Harry...they are legends in their own minds.
 

701EV

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Take all pilots under 25 years old and have them move back in with their mommies, some already do. This means no rent, food or laundry bills. Also, reduce their pay by 4 per hour.

Yeah, that's the ticket!
Texx,

That was priceless!

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Speedtape

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Not that we need saving but...

1. We give up our profit bonus.
2. Take that money and put it in a pool.
3. Then offer it as a lump sum to anyone who wants to retire. Require 15 years of experience 55 years of age or whatever you like.
4. Divide the sum by the number who take the offer. Minimum 10 per quarter.

Results: We all move up ten or so numbers a quarter. Line holders get higher hour/better lines. FO's get a shot at upgrade. Old Captains that suck can leave with honor. We sap up our pilot surplus. Exciting vacation vacancies mid year. Pilot group stays junior and we don't have to get PBS.

One downside. We lose a couple of hundred bucks a quarter. Should be made up with schedule improvement.

Allow the pilots a quarterly vote on the offer. If hiring picks up and we move up seniority at a good clip then we can go back to taking the money.

Just a thought.

Just a thought--Show me the money!
 

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Make it a lump sum $1 million, and you can move up at least one number!
You better do the deal before 02/09 or Obama is going to take a BIG chunk and give it right back to the FOs. hahaha
 

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It does seem that we are at a quiet crossroads, doesn't it?


The writing is on the wall. If we don't get some more flying in the near future, either with the planes we have, or some undetermined amount of additional planes, ASA will furlough.
 

johnpeace

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It'd make so much more sense, from a cost savings perspective, to furlough from the top down instead of from the bottom up.
 

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It'd make so much more sense, from a cost savings perspective, to furlough from the top down instead of from the bottom up.

The good news is that ignorance can sometimes be cured.
Not in your case it can't.
 

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hahahahahahah!
 

johnpeace

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Not in your case it can't.
Great, could you please demonstrate to me how it would be more cost effective (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you know what that means) to furlough lower paid employees....than to furlough higher paid employees.
 
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