My Next Adveenture! Departing 06/02/07

[mcjohn]

Mcjohn, Mcjohn!

What? What?

 

[flyguybri]

Looks like he made it less than 200 miles out of Bend

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/10/flying.lawn.chair.ap/index.html

 

[Way2Broke]

Looks like he made it less than 200 miles out of Bend

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/10/flying.lawn.chair.ap/index.html

Nice work NW_Pilot.

 

[QueensPilot]

Thanks Avbug:
I googled his name but I do not see a company or contact info. I may give him a call. I am also interested in Southern Cross. Looks like a very professional organization. There does not seem to be much info about the light aircraft they ferry, only larger transport and corporate stuff.

 

[tomgoodman]

Lawn chair threat

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/10/flying.lawn.chair.ap/index.html


Another LCC (Low Cost Chair) undercutting the profession! Legacy Barcalounger captains should never let a lawn chair pilot jumpseat, not even on the ottoman. What next --cabotage and flying futons?

 

[CA1900]

He thinks that he can fly a turbine just because he heard one start across the ramp.

He's also advertising ferry service for basically every turboprop light enough not to require a type rating, including the MU-2. That's a suicide mission without proper training.

 

[A Squared]

He's also advertising ferry service for basically every turboprop light enough not to require a type rating, including the MU-2. That's a suicide mission without proper training.

Holy crap, you're right.

You know, I haven't had too much of an opinion on this guy, I mean he's obviously immature and a bit of a jerk, but I wasn't going to pass judgement on some of hte stuff he was doing without knowing more.

However if he's offering ferry services for merlins, MU-2's, cheyennes and such with zero time in this class of aircraft (let alone time in the specific models), I have no reservation stating that he's a complete idiot with no redeeming qualities.

 

[NW_Pilot]

Holy crap, you're right.

You know, I haven't had too much of an opinion on this guy, I mean he's obviously immature and a bit of a jerk, but I wasn't going to pass judgement on some of hte stuff he was doing without knowing more.

However if he's offering ferry services for merlins, MU-2's, cheyennes and such with zero time in this class of aircraft (let alone time in the specific models), I have no reservation stating that he's a complete idiot with no redeeming qualities.

As Usual, You all assume way to much!!!

I contract out flights I am not comfortable flying to other pilots in the industory! They give me a small percentage of the pilot fee's for the referral if the flight happens. I do the same with their referrals.

Sometimes I ride along and learn to fly a particular make and model. The client gets the plane delivered, we both make money, and sometimes I learn a new aircraft.

You all can think what you want!

 

[avbug]

Ride along and learn to fly a particular model? Wait until Flight Safety International, CAE Simuflite, and every other training organization out there gets wind of your idea. You'll put them all out of business. Why train properly when you can merely ride along and figure it all out.

For a flying corpse, you're a smart one.

 

[A Squared]

As Usual, You all assume way to much!!!

I contract out flights I am not comfortable flying to other pilots in the industory! They give me a small percentage of the pilot fee's for the referral if the flight happens. I do the same with their referrals.

Sometimes I ride along and learn to fly a particular make and model. The client gets the plane delivered, we both make money, and sometimes I learn a new aircraft.

You all can think what you want!

Look, you've already stated that you're looking for caravans to ferry despite any experince with or training on turbine engines, or that aircraft model. I can see the thought process. "well I have 4.3 hours checking myself out enroute in a caravan, and I rode along in a king air for a couple of hours, so I ought to be good to go to hop into a cheyenne .... " "Just hand me the POH the keys and my fee", right?

I contract out flights I am not comfortable flying to other pilots in the industory!

THat's just it, it's becoming increasigly obvious that you don't have the raw wattage necessary to recognize when you shouldn't be "comfortable"

 

[The_Russian]

I'm gonna have to go with the rest of the guys on this one. Operating any turbine equipment without prior training in type is not too bright. If I was an owner, I would not use your services unless you had not been formally trained for the aircraft to be ferried. Heck, most piston twins today are more complex than any of the turbine equipment I have flown.

Attepting an MU-2 ferry without training is flat out moronic. Most of the time I am good about giving a guy a break, but this guy! C'mon man! This industry is not all about having balls between your legs.

Be careful.

 

[NW_Pilot]

I'm gonna have to go with the rest of the guys on this one. Operating any turbine equipment without prior training in type is not too bright. If I was an owner, I would not use your services unless you had not been formally trained for the aircraft to be ferried. Heck, most piston twins today are more complex than any of the turbine equipment I have flown.

Attepting an MU-2 ferry without training is flat out moronic. Most of the time I am good about giving a guy a break, but this guy! C'mon man! This industry is not all about having balls between your legs.

Be careful.

If I ever get a MU2 ferry? Unlikely! But, I have a MU2 Pilot that is a qualified instructor that would be more than happy to to have the work and kick me down a little for the referral plus get me some instruction in that make an model. This industry is about networking I am building an extensive network of avaiable pilots and instructors. If I cannot fly it I myself I will know someone that can!

Last post On This Subject!

 

[Way2Broke]

It is obvious to all of us here that you do not have the faintest idea what this industry is about, nor are you willing to listen to the advise of the professional pilots around you. If you continue his behavior you will end up dead. Do you really think that we are all sayind these things to belittle you? We don't want you to kill yourself or worse yet innocent people on the ground.

If I ever get a MU2 ferry? Unlikely! But, I have a MU2 Pilot that is a qualified instructor that would be more than happy to to have the work and kick me down a little for the referral plus get me some instruction in that make an model. This industry is about networking I am building an extensive network of avaiable pilots and instructors. If I cannot fly it I myself I will know someone that can!

Last post On This Subject!

 

[A Squared]

I'm gonna have to go with the rest of the guys on this one. Operating any turbine equipment without prior training in type is not too bright. If I was an owner, I would not use your services unless you had not been formally trained for the aircraft to be ferried. Heck, most piston twins today are more complex than any of the turbine equipment I have flown.

Attepting an MU-2 ferry without training is flat out moronic. Most of the time I am good about giving a guy a break, but this guy! C'mon man! This industry is not all about having balls between your legs.

Be careful.

Hey look, I've got The Russian agreeing with me, this could be the start of something big!

 

[A Squared]

If I ever get a MU2 ferry? Unlikely! But, I have a MU2 Pilot that is a qualified instructor that would be more than happy to to have the work and kick me down a little for the referral plus get me some instruction in that make an model.

Right, this is precisely the problem. You think that with a little "instruction" while enroute, you'll be ready to ferry the next MU-2 youself. Despite never actually practicing the single engine technique which is specific to that airplane.

 

[chperplt]

I've never in my life seen an individual push away so many people who are trying to keep him alive.

Dude... We're trying to help you stay alive for your wife and children. How about starting to listen up a little???

Life is too short already... why try and shorten it up even more?

 

[Princedietrich]

Hey look, I've got The Russian agreeing with me, this could be the start of something big!

Keep a sharp lookout just in case Russian and avbug start agreeing. That would likely be the 5th sign of the coming apocalypse. :beer:



((edited to remove the smartass remark that appeared to be completely hilarious but could be misconstrued as being very insensitive and heartless))

 

[avbug]

Thanks Avbug:
I googled his name but I do not see a company or contact info. I may give him a call.

From the current Trade A Plane;

PHOENIX, ARIZONA: Part-time delivery pilot for aircraft sales operation. 700TT, prefer CFI, require excellent people skills and excellent aviation references. Barron Thomas, Scottsdale Airport. FAX (480) 951-6229.

 

[QueensPilot]

Thanks Avbug!

 

[Kingairrick]

"raw wattage" he, he, he...