My Last Post on Flight Info...

[rice]

Yeah, yeah. He'll be back.

I've been to Flightinfo rehab twice now and it still doesn't take. I really do try to just use the computer to surf the free porn sites but I just can't keep from coming back here.

(sound of slapping my arm to raise a vein...) TC

You sure that was your arm???

 

[Sctt@NJA]

And since I am a number posting mood. Here are my numbers as a Hawker PIC starting year 6 next month. Maybe it doesn't seem like a lot but compare it to what we have now...

This is 7/7 schedule, base salary, staying in the Hawker for the next 7 years compared to what i would make on our current contract.

NEW PAY OLD PAY

93,200 64,188
96,400 67,560
99,600 74,496
102,800 77,604
106,000 80,796
111,909 84,300
118,078 87,996

 

[Unleaded]

Man oh man i lost my whole post. Arrgh

Okay i'll try again. G200 and H25B a week ago you were thinking we were crazy to take it to a strike now you think we are crazy to accept the offer? I know its not the best but it's pretty damn good.

You're job is the best in aviation for You and my job is the best for me. Me personally want I want is tons and tons of time off. That is what is my goal. More time off with my family. For that i'm willing to give up some things such as pay.

It's important to me and my family to have the WHOLE summer off. What I usually do is take from June 1st to september 1st off. That's what is important to me.

I'm sure with your jobs you've had to give up something to get something else.

Can't we just agree to disagree?

 

[Pedro]

You're job is the best in aviation for You and my job is the best for me. Me personally want I want is tons and tons of time off. That is what is my goal....

Sorry man, couldn't resist picking on you...

 

[Unleaded]

Yeah i'm pretty much an idiot.

I'm not even going to bother to change it.

 

[squonk]

I've said this before on here and I still believe it. You will have to sit down and weigh the costs of NOT ratifying the TA because of XYZ or taking the money and go on with your life.

How much will we gain by voting it down, taking a delay and losing leverage for the busy holiday snowbird shuffle. Would we gain 23-50k (Base salary plus 20k in retro, roughly for the 5-7 yr bubble) more.

It is all in what you have the stomach to fight for. It still intrigues me that there is no one on here spinning for the company. Too much champagne flowing in Woodbridge perhaps?

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Unleaded

Hey Bud,

Like I said, congrats if you feel you have won. Thats good.

I was not even going to comment other than "good for you!" until one of your tools (stickshaker) brought me into it all giddy about 90K after 5-10 years with the company.....he wanted to show me!, rub my face in the big bucks TA you guys fought for .

so....dikshaker really WANTED me to comment - and I did.

IMHO, you guys got played, and played real bad.

But again, you seem happy, and thats ALL that matters. I fully agree that liking your job and having a lot of time off is FAR more important than money. I fly approx. 300 hrs a year, average 10-15 days a month, and get lots of vacation....I dont make huge money at all but wouldn't trade more pay for less QOL. We agree on that....I think thats healthy for families, works for me, etc...

however, I could never work for Netjet wages, sorry, not your old wages OR your new wages....not unless I had NO other choice -- then I would aim to leave aviation. But thats just me.

Its your job, not mine - glad to hear it works well for you.

any progress is progress.

 

[Unleaded]

g200 commenting and then adding insults is what got you the answer from stickshaker.

Don't say good for you then spit on my face.

It's patronizing.

 

[Sctt@NJA]

Like I said, congrats if you feel you have won. Thats good.

Sounds like you must have a pretty good job if our payscale looks so low to you. Care to share your pay? Ours is out in the open for all to see.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Sounds like you must have a pretty good job if our payscale looks so low to you. Care to share your pay? Ours is out in the open for all to see.

NBAA average for equipment....aka low for the area.

but still a great job.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

g200 commenting and then adding insults is what got you the answer from stickshaker.

Don't say good for you then spit on my face.

It's patronizing.

read the thread, I never said a word until stickshaker asked me. Then I introduced him to reality.

Dont cry Unleaded, it aint that bad.

:crying:

 

[Unleaded]

I'm not crying. I'm telling you to your face it's insulting.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I'm not crying. I'm telling you to your face it's insulting.

As a Netjet pilot about to vote "hell YES" you dont know insulting from a hole in the ground.

 

[Unleaded]

I haven't decided how to vote but I will say it's my vote.

It's easy to stand on the sidelines and throw stones and make comments.

Of course some people just enjoy being a pita.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I haven't decided how to vote but I will say it's my vote.

It's easy to stand on the sidelines and throw stones and make comments.

Of course some people just enjoy being a pita.

puhhlease....that POS is going to pass with flying colors! -- too many stickshakers in the mix....


we will leave it at that I suppose, agree to disagree.