Must See Video - Midwest pilots furloughed after Republic takeover

[elcid]

http://www.pprune.org/redirect-to/?...ery/UltraVideoGallery.swf?vId=281&portalId=14

 

[MCDU]

This nothing new. Usair east furloughed 1800 pilots and republic replaced them With about 70 e170. it happened at united to. All under alpa. Why is anybody surprised. they did it before.

M

 

[JumpersAway]

Outstanding class Midwest MEC and pilots- even through to the bitter end. It would be an absolute honor to share a flight deck with any one of you. Total class in my book............I am sorry that others do not harbor the same respect for you as I.

 

[johnsonrod]

Tony Hoksema (spelling?) can suck it!

Good luck to all of the CLASSY Midwest pilots out there...

 

[CitationLover]

Tony Hoksema (spelling?) can suck it!

Good luck to all of the CLASSY Midwest pilots out there...

it's Tim Hoeksema.

 

[waveflyer]

On this - mcdu and I agree. To furlough and outsource at the same time is unforgivable - unions should have had a line in the sand. Strikes should have been organized- and if it were derailed by the govt - resignation letters in mass.

 

[waka]

It's a damn shame that the video of Midwest's last flight and the farewell of a great group of employees was tainted by the presence of the likes of bloodsucking ALPA national.

Union yes, ALPA no.

 

[DH106]

Does anyone know how that video will be used (i.e., are they distributing it to news organizations, documentary writers, etc.)?

It was a good video. It's sad that hoeksema ruined a great airline, while getting filthy rich.

You'd think that, for such an event as this, management would be present at some microphone/camera, somewhere. But, in the local news, management wasn't anywhere to be seen. Not on this video, either. Truly sad.

 

[michael707767]

On this - mcdu and I agree. To furlough and outsource at the same time is unforgivable - unions should have had a line in the sand. .

ALPA having a line in the sand. That's funny.

 

[zawillif]

Republic suuuuuuuuuucks

 

[FlyWolf]

Very sad day, It was an honor to be a part of this pilot group.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

I wonder if Republic guys need a ride to work? Hate to say it, but maybe if they can't get to work, they won't work. Nothing personal, they'll fly whatever their management screws them into, and again, nothing personal, they should buy them tickets to get to work. A lot of cancelled flights due to no crews, means a failed airline going belly up. No worries there, the airline is already shut down in my eyes.

Good luck to all who have lost everything, may your landing be smooth wherever life takes you

 

[ultrarunner]

You'd think that, for such an event as this, management would be present at some microphone/camera, somewhere.

Nope, not under the circumstances. In fact, they were likely told specifically NOT to be there.

 

[weasel_lips]

Too many douch bags out there willing to fly a RJ for poverty wages. It has destroyed this profession. I hope they like being a lifer at the commuter level.

 

[StaySeated]

Wow, ALPA, and their paid MEC members appear to be very active. Where were they during the YX "codeshare" arbitration?

I don't remember a similar, heartfelt video during the demise of ATA. Wasn't ATA an ALPA carrier?

 

[Bluestreak]

Too many douch bags out there willing to fly a RJ for poverty wages. It has destroyed this profession. I hope they like being a lifer at the commuter level.

You including Compass in there too ? The massive $42/hr top out to year ,um,18!

 

[Quack]

You including Compass in there too ? The massive $42/hr top out to year ,um,18!

A contract negoiated by it's mainline parents. Yeah blame the compass people but the crap a$$ contract was developed by nwa mainline mec! Looking in the mirror is harder than it seems sometimes...

 

[Flyerdan]

On this - mcdu and I agree. To furlough and outsource at the same time is unforgivable - unions should have had a line in the sand. Strikes should have been organized- and if it were derailed by the govt - resignation letters in mass.

I know where this "burn it down" attitude comes from and I don't fault you for your frustration. I do wonder though, if everyone took this position say at United, Delta, etc., who do you think would replace that flying once those companies were burned down?

 

[tailhookah]

It's very sad... just what someone said above that furloughes while outsourcing is unacceptable. Look at this link below. It tells the whole story while Midwest mgt. acts like nothing changed...

http://www.midwestairlines.com/AboutUs/PlaneTypes.aspx

Nothing in this industry will change until a line is drawn in the sand. Republic pilots need to look at themselves in the mirror and take it upon themselves to change what they've supported by flying these new and usurped routes. You guys are semi-major now and need to do whatever it takes to get your contracts up to major levels. You want to play on the big playground w/ the big guys? Then you better start acting like it. Stop accepting the crappy regional rates to fly the 90-100 seaters and bring that pay up to the major level. It's all up to you guys now that you've taken all the flying at Midwest and soon Frontier away... if you Republic guys want the respect you think you deserve then you better make it worth it. What was done to a proud heritage at Midwest was made possible by your (Republic pilots) support to fly those routes for crappy wages. Hope you are proud of your support to take this industry down even further than I thought it would go.

Tailhookah

 

[waveflyer]

I know where this "burn it down" attitude comes from and I don't fault you for your frustration. I do wonder though, if everyone took this position say at United, Delta, etc., who do you think would replace that flying once those companies were burned down?

In this case the company was still burned... And at so many others- how many have been recalled to jobs not worth coming back to. Where is your line in the sand?

 

[se1776]

Thank you ALPA.

 

[Citjok]

Heard Republic is changing their radio callsign to "prickyard".

 

[fokker pilot]

Does anybody remember the ALPA UAL screw job the Air Wisconsin pilots took in 1993 ?

 

[OurMoney1]

Yup....another ugly chapter all under the watchful eye of ALPA.

 

[Ex737Driver]

As long as ALPA represents both sides of the coin, this will never change. How can you represent pilots that, because of managment, are taking other pilots jobs. The job of the union is to watch out for the "pilots" as a whole. ALPA reminds me of the arms delaer that sells offensive weapons to one side and defensive weapons to the other. It's always a win-win for them no mater the outcome.

 

[samballs]

You including Compass in there too ? The massive $42/hr top out to year ,um,18!

Ahhhhh Rp tops out at 37 yr 18

 

[PCL_128]

As long as ALPA represents both sides of the coin, this will never change. How can you represent pilots that, because of managment, are taking other pilots jobs. The job of the union is to watch out for the "pilots" as a whole. ALPA reminds me of the arms delaer that sells offensive weapons to one side and defensive weapons to the other. It's always a win-win for them no mater the outcome.

You do realize that ALPA doesn't represent the pilots that are receiving this outsourced flying, right?

But of course, it's always ALPA's fault.

 

[Anonymous2]

Too many douch bags out there willing to fly a RJ for poverty wages. It has destroyed this profession. I hope they like being a lifer at the commuter level.

Wow, this kind of talk again. Great. The same thing. Over and over again. The regional pilots against mainline pilots and vice versa going on for infinity. I guess that's the only way to get it out. So......Go ahead, get it out. Get it all out. Express that anger. :beer:

 

[samballs]

You do realize that ALPA doesn't represent the pilots that are receiving this outsourced flying, right?

But of course, it's always ALPA's fault.

Pretty much!! Do you let Prater give you a reach around?

 

[planejockey]

ALPA is a company and as such it will look for a source of income. ALPA and Prater are after who will pay the next round of golf and trip to some outlandish resort. Under ALPA the future of the profession has been destroyed. Show me a good contract that ALPA national and its subsidiaries have produced in the last 10 years. I could give you a few bad ones that will outshine your "good" contracts (UAL pay cut, CAL, NW, AWAC pay cut, XJT pay cut, demise of Midwest, collapse of LCC, humm should I go on?) The best that they can do now is have a SINGLE seniority list and set a base pay for all pilots. Otherwise we can all enjoy working for Colgan at the 16K rate for the next few years on the Q400 and the new Q capable of over 100 PAX.