Most Challenging Regional Aircraft??

[Coool Hand Luke]

I can't believe all you Brasillia wussies.

You had an airplane with APU (air-conditioning), a lav, an autopilot, glass, and an F/A to bring you coffee and you're whining?

You guys wouldn't have lasted ten minutes in the Jetstream.

To the tune of Gilligan's Island:

Just sit right back and you'll hear the tale
Of a typical Jetstream trip
(We) Stuff nineteen paying passengers
Aboard our tiny ship.
...........

Now that is funny!

 

[h25b]

I remember being a new hire a CHQ just before they started getting the RJ's... At that time you were a God if you were lucky enough to get the Saab 340A. Us 340 guys would look at the Jetstream guys in the crew room and think, "you poor bastards..." Then about a year later the RJ crews were looking at us in the 340's thinking, "you poor bastards..." Ah how the times change...

 

[NuGuy]

LOL, I remember seeing a post on the wall of the CLT crew room with this back in the CCAir days, except the next to last verse was:

The freon's out, the flows are bad
No damper is installed
The passengers are turning green
Their cookies will be lost, their cookies will be lost!

Nu

 

[geshields]

I can't believe all you Brasillia wussies.

You had an airplane with APU (air-conditioning), a lav, an autopilot, glass, and an F/A to bring you coffee and you're whining?

You guys wouldn't have lasted ten minutes in the Jetstream.

To the tune of Gilligan's Island:

Just sit right back and you'll hear the tale
Of a typical Jetstream trip
(We) Stuff nineteen paying passengers
Aboard our tiny ship.

No Drinks, no Stu, no Cockpit Door
Not a single luxury
Like Or-ville and Wilbur Wright
As primitive as can be
As primitive as can be

My armrest's stuck, my back is shot
I have a second job
The engines are not making torque
I wish I flew a Saab

We wrote one up, the boss is mad
It's me he wants to fire
I should have stayed in dental school
The majors will not hire
The majors will not hire

The freon's out, the flows are bad
No damper is installed
The passengers are turning green
The new guy is appalled

The pressure spikes, the radar's shot
The brand new engine quit
I hope I live to tell the tale
Of a typical Jetstream trip.
A-board our ti-ny ship!

I forgot all about that rhyme. That was passed around the TSA crew lounge regularly back in the day....

 

[81Horse]

Based on that Jetstream song (which I have never read before, so I'm LMAO now!), I declare the Jetstream to be WORSE than the Brasilia.

However, there once was a time when Metro drivers would watch a Jetstream go by (in freon-induced comfort) and think, "You lucky bastards!" Passengers thought they were a big improvement over the Metros, too. And based on this, I declare the Metro WORST.

Unless you'd all like to go even farther back, to the Beech 99 and the Bandeirante. Because those guys used to watch Metros taxi by and think, "You lucky bastards!"

 

[geojet707]

The "Wiggle Pig"
AKA Jetstream 32

No autopilot...short "arm" (center of wing to tail)
we got real good with trim....and landing gear made for carrier landings(no joke!!)

AMEN....nothing like the J-Ball!!!!

 

[81Horse]

... short "arm" (center of wing to tail) ...

Plus the big dihedral. A real Dutch roll factory.

 

[jester757]

Word...J-ball is the worst. But don't all you former J-31 pilots wish you had half the scan we had back then? I know I do!

 

[geshields]

Word...J-ball is the worst. But don't all you former J-31 pilots wish you had half the scan we had back then? I know I do!

Yes and no...

I sort of like the LNAV, VNAV with autopilot and an awesome A/C system now...and a map...that will automatically figure out the holds for me and draw me a pretty picture....

 

[BenderGonzales]

well that was back when we were aviators. Now we are simply pilots -- the preverbial monkey who pushes the button to get the banana.

 

[geshields]

well that was back when we were aviators. Now we are simply pilots -- the preverbial monkey who pushes the button to get the banana.

You get a banana??? What button is that??

 

[skengdon]

Not to be off the topic

I was just wondering(even though it's not 121/regional a/c) but how does say; a learjet (35) fly in comparison to those earlier mentioned. I ask because its fairly a small/light a/c and may encounter such flight tendencies as TPs mentioned. How is it on landing? and with a x-wind? how about at cruise? Is it equipped with such automation, if any? Just a general pros&cons of flight characteristics please.

thanks and sorry if i ruined the topic
SD

 

[Crizz]

I happen to like bananas.

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

What's a Learjet?

 

[Northern Lights]

Saab gear

LOL, studying for E120 school next month and I was blown way, 5 generators!? WTF for? 3 ways to extend the gear? ?

So has anyone ever had to pull the magic lever in the Saab to lower the gear? You know, the whole "explosive bolt" thing? I always throught that was a crazy way to design a system in case the hydraulics went out.

 

[NuGuy]

So has anyone ever had to pull the magic lever in the Saab to lower the gear? You know, the whole "explosive bolt" thing? I always throught that was a crazy way to design a system in case the hydraulics went out.

Agreed, the DHC-8 had a MUCH better system. Two pulls and you're done.

Nu

 

[81Horse]

I want to hear from anyone who ever had to split the flight controls on a Brasilia. (Simulators don't count.)

The Lear 35 -- quirky, yes -- but not on the order of a Jetstream. Plus, it's, um, you know ... a jet!

 

[Tram]

Hehe.. We still have the JunkStream song on the wall in our crewroom..

The song tells it how it is..

 

[Turtlesfly]

I think Colgan pilots get the hardest airplanes to fly - not that the manufacturers really goofed, but everything kept leaking and falling off. The day I had to pull the FI Stop Override sliding down the snowy runway was the day I filled out my applications so I could leave. Of course, you couldn't use the brakes because the anti-skid failed en route. Good times.

Any airplane becomes difficult when you only have a majority of parts working.

 

[airchristyle]

E-120, that mean spirited bitch demands every bit of your attention. ASA has the wreckege to prove it.

I agree, you the man if you can "fly" the Jungle Prop.

 

[jetpig32]

Hehe.. We still have the JunkStream song on the wall in our crewroom..

The song tells it how it is..

There was a copy posted in STL. Must have been taken down along with the beer posters and mini urinal.

 

[Tram]

The mini urinal is gone, but the song is still here in STL..

Yeh, Colgan guys make better pay, but our planes don't fall apart near as much..

 

[14RF SUX]

I agree, you the man if you can "fly" the Jungle Prop.

Come on.......the Brasilia wasn't so bad...........NOT! Good riddance.

 

[ArcticFlier]

I agree, you the man if you can "fly" the Jungle Prop.

Oh please..................the Brasilia was a nice, easy airplane to fly. Sure, it had it's problems, but which platform didn't?


AF

 

[Fred Rogers]

my tallywacker is about 6 and 1/4" long

 

[Tram]

I always heard Mr. Rogers had a biigg secret... I guess that's it...

 

[ArcticFlier]

I always heard Mr. Rogers had a biigg secret... I guess that's it...

Oh...........if your girlfriend thinks that's biigg..............oh...........never mind.



AF

 

[belchfire]

The mini urinal is gone, but the song is still here in STL..

Yeh, Colgan guys make better pay, but our planes don't fall apart near as much..

I think I spewed coffee the first time I saw the paper urinal on the post. Someone had even put an altoid in it to look like a deodorant cake. How about the little minature outhouse and Cartman above the mailboxes?

The song? It better stay up on that wall!!! I didn't write it but I did what I could to revive it!

The Jetstream 31/super31/32/3100/3201 (it was such a biatch they didn't even know what to call it!) has my vote...

The metro was pretty close to the jball from what I've heard-just flew the jetstream...oh my that biatch...I wonder if I would live if I tried to fly one now! You guys in the turbo props...if you make it right to a real (as opposed to a regional) jet you will just not know what to do when you get done with 7 and a half hours of flying in one leg and not feel all dehydrated and sticky and malnurished and exhausted and like you need to go to the Emergency Room and be treated for heatstroke or hypothermia depending on the season!

I never fully realized how screwed up it was to be doing that crap flying hot or cold all of the time eight legs IFR and you do it so much you start to think it's normal and don't know how tired you are...

Till you aren't doing it any more!

 

[Tram]

Yeh... Hopefully we'll get out soon enough..

 

[CopilotDoug]

The Saab can be a real bear to fly with the GPU still hooked up at V1...

In all seriousness, what is the deal with the F'ed up nosewheel steering system on the San Antonio Sewer Tube? Can someone please explain that?