Most Challenging Regional Aircraft??

[CF34-3B1]

I don't blame Embraer for the prop, but the plane as a whole was very challenging. Of course the old guard at ASA made the E-120 program more of an initiation than training....remember diagramming the prop function, or electrical system for John Goodson?

The dam.n thing was otherwise nearly bullet proof.....had to love those ATL summers, cookin your stones off up front.

I remember on 120 Upgrade class written test's he'd take off points for not having comma's and apostraphies in the right place. Ahhh, what fun.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

My vote goes to the Jetstream 31/32

 

[CA1900]

I remember on 120 Upgrade class written test's he'd take off points for not having comma's and apostraphies in the right place. Ahhh, what fun.

-3. :laugh:

 

[CF34-3B1]

-3. :laugh:

at least SOMEONE got it :beer:

 

[suupah]

I vote the saab. tho i haven't flown any other turbo props. but mainly i vote the saab cuz it is heavy on the controls with no hydraulic assistance.

 

[152hvy]

A good trick I've learned on the Dash is to put one wheel down first. Makes up for the lack of trailing link

That's a nice trick, I see guys doing it in santo domingo. The trailing link on the Dash is almost similar to the Fokker 27, I can either grease it or slam it, flying it feels like driving a dump truck with no power steering, built like one too...

 

["GO AROUND"]

Is the J-Ball 41 as bad as the 31/32?

No, much easier to fly. Like a big seminole, counter rotating props and all. All be it with 1600 SHP a side.

 

[atrdriver]

Something about the ATR makes me think it would be hard to fly. Not sure though.


The Dash-8 is like a Cessna on steroids. Easy to fly, hard to land it the same way twice.

ATR flies like a big 172. Little challenging on strong xwind landings (25 kt plus), but that's about all.

 

[ASARJMan]

.........any friggin' regional sim!​

VOTED IN FAVOR!​

 

[OPECJet]

Dash is nice in a crosswind. Use the wing down, and let the SOB hit. Got a huge rudder back there to keep it going straight.

I've hear horror stories about that little Limey Jetscream.

Funny thing about landing the Dash. I had a month where every landing was a greaser. Couldn't have made a bad one if I tried. The next month, every landing was crap. Opened the overheads a few times. My paycheck was the same as when I was making the good ones... Now I just don't give a frogs fat arse.

 

[StopNTSing]

Three pages of this thread and not one vote for the Sewerpipe? WTFO? Must have been before ya'lls time?

 

[dogtown]

-3. :laugh:

Very nice.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Three pages of this thread and not one vote for the Sewerpipe? WTFO? Must have been before ya'lls time?

We're all too young. :laugh: j/k

I second the vote that the ATR is like a big Cessna.....but I think she's closer to a 182 than a 172. Either way, though.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Three pages of this thread and not one vote for the Sewerpipe? WTFO? Must have been before ya'lls time?

C-46. Now there is a handfull on cross wind 4 ya!

 

[GuppyPuppy]

The EMB120 was not a difficult airplane to fly.

The most difficult one I've flown that is still in part 121 service is the Metro (San Antonio Sewer Tube, Cigar with wings). No autopilot, no flight director, no APU, funky nosewheel steering, small cockpit, loud engines/props. Still, I had a blast flying it down to minimums only to see maybe 2 rabbit lights. My instrument skills were never better and I'm glad to have had the experience flying the Metro.

GP

 

[PunchTheClown]

The CRJ is the worlds easiest airplane to fly, if that narrows the field down at all.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Three pages of this thread and not one vote for the Sewerpipe? WTFO? Must have been before ya'lls time?

I don't think it qualifies for a vote, they aren't used in scheduled airline service anymore.

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

Well someone forgot to tell Big Sky that. LOL.

 

[Crizz]

Well someone forgot to tell Big Sky that. LOL.

They fly shiney 1900s, brought to you by sheltered XJ cash-ola.

 

[Way2Broke]

Yea, I can see the Jetstream being that way. I've never flown one, but I've ridden in the back quite a few times. One thing I will say, it has a dang good a/c system on it...no matter hot it is outside....always nice and cool inside.

A Jetstream with a good a/c? Funny I remember the things barely working at all. Unless your in the farthest aft seat getting drenched with water spewing from the vent.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

I don't think it qualifies for a vote, they aren't used in scheduled airline service anymore.

Wrong!

Pen Air uses them out of Anchorage. They have a code share agreement with Alaska Airlines.

Cheers!

GP

 

[SkyBoy1981]

They are all very challenging. You must have incredible skills and even a little luck to succeed as the commander of any regional aircraft.

 

[81Horse]

A Jetstream with a good a/c? Funny I remember the things barely working at all. ...

Gee, as I recall, they worked like a gale-force wind coming down a glacier -- but ... they were new at the time. :erm:

 

[WMUSIGPI]

ok so I get burned by one obscure operator in AK... sorry.
Any thoughts on the twin cessnas at cape air. Where would they rate. (I have no idea what models they use)

 

[great cornholio]

Is the J-Ball 41 as bad as the 31/32?

I've flown the 41, but not the 31/32 so I can't really give a hands on comparison, but I thought that the 41 was pretty stable. Once you got it trimmed out it pretty much flew where you put it. I heard that the the 31/32 is "always perfectly trimmed to find the fastest way to the ground" Now the challenging part about flying the 41 was dealing with the mx issues that seemed to come up.

The 1900 was stable, but I imagine it was not so stable before the engineers figured that they needed to hang all that crap off the back.

The EMB 145 is pretty easy to fly too. The wierd thing about it is that it seems like it doesnt really like wind that much on landing. Any thing more that 15 or 20 kts of wind escpecially if its gusty can turn into a handfull in that plane. Its my first swept wing so maybe its a swept wing thing. Cause the 1900 and the 41 could handle 30 to 40 kts of wind before you felt like you really had to work for it.

 

[Flex81]

you know...these are all turboprops (E-120, Metro, Jetstream 32). So why does everyone want jet time if it takes more skill to fly a TP.
BTW, my vote is for the E-120 cause it is harder than the 1900. "change power...trim rudder" over and over again

 

[DGdaPilot]

you know...these are all turboprops (E-120, Metro, Jetstream 32). So why does everyone want jet time if it takes more skill to fly a TP.
BTW, my vote is for the E-120 cause it is harder than the 1900. "change power...trim rudder" over and over again

Because of the endless number of employers who feel that jet time is more valuable than prop time. Dumb if you ask me.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

ok so I get burned by one obscure operator in AK... sorry.
Any thoughts on the twin cessnas at cape air. Where would they rate. (I have no idea what models they use)

Obscure? Not if you regularly fly through Anchorage. The same could be said of Cape Air in the northeast. Most people outside of New England have never heard of Cape Air (yes I know they have an operation in the carribean and a couple of ATR 42's in Guam).

The original question referred to a part 121 airline. Aren't the 402's at Cape Air operated on a part 135 certificate?

As for the 402's...I imagine they are a handful. Same goes for the Chieftain.

GP

 

[DGdaPilot]

Yes, Cape Air 402s are not 121.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

you know...these are all turboprops (E-120, Metro, Jetstream 32). So why does everyone want jet time if it takes more skill to fly a TP.
BTW, my vote is for the E-120 cause it is harder than the 1900. "change power...trim rudder" over and over again

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