More signs the ATR is going away.

[777forever]

0 200 Cptn Vacancies for latest prelims
0 ATR Cptn Vacancies for latest prelims

I've been here for just 3 months and I was able to figure out that is was an extra prelim. Makes me wonder how informed some of you really are...

 

[JettBoii]

Go feather a prop Toolbox.

 

[777forever]

Go feather a prop Toolbox.

Okay, hard to respond to an uninformed remark from an uninformed person...

 

[Cpt Oveur]

I talked to an ALPA rep who has analyzed all regional pay including payrates and more importantly, WORK RULES. Horizon may have higher 700 pay than ASA but ASA's work rules are far superior. When all the soft pay is factored in, ASA 700 pays more.

Horizon's aircraft payrates are not so cut and dry. You are compensated on the aircraft pay rate that corresponds to your percentile in seniority. The dash 200 is the lowest, the CRJ-700 the highest, Q400 in the middle. A very senior FO flying the Dash 200 would be compensated on the CRJ-700 rate. Don't ask me why they do this, ask a Horizon pilot to explain it better. It was explained to me by a 200 FO.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I've been here for just 3 months and I was able to figure out that is was an extra prelim. Makes me wonder how informed some of you really are...

600 hours and 3 months, most of which has been spent in training. Let me guess? Riddle intern at one point?

Have fun with this guy Joe and John. :laugh:

 

[777forever]

600 hours and 3 months, most of which has been spent in training. Let me guess? Riddle intern at one point?

Have fun with this guy Joe and John. :laugh:

Riddle intern? Nope, far from it. Nice try though, lots of Riddle cats around here. Don't take it personally or anything but Im just shocked seasoned ASA pilots couldn't figure out the latest prelim was an extra one.

 

[coorsFlight]

Riddle intern? Nope, far from it. Nice try though, lots of Riddle cats around here. Don't take it personally or anything but Im just shocked seasoned ASA pilots couldn't figure out the latest prelim was an extra one.

You must be fun to fly with!

 

[sweptback]

Horizon's aircraft payrates are not so cut and dry. You are compensated on the aircraft pay rate that corresponds to your percentile in seniority. The dash 200 is the lowest, the CRJ-700 the highest, Q400 in the middle. A very senior FO flying the Dash 200 would be compensated on the CRJ-700 rate. Don't ask me why they do this, ask a Horizon pilot to explain it better. It was explained to me by a 200 FO.

Not to mention they don't get block or better! Keep in mind too that because of the above system a good number of CRJ FOs aren't paid at the CRJ rate.

 

[PositionandHold]

Riddle intern? Nope, far from it. Nice try though, lots of Riddle cats around here. Don't take it personally or anything but Im just shocked seasoned ASA pilots couldn't figure out the latest prelim was an extra one.

I've been here for a little while and I didn't know it was an extra prelim, either. I don't even know wtf an extra prelim is.

Are you the same 777forever from jetcareers. This isn't jetcareers. They let you off lightly there last time you got cocky.

You got 600 hours from the 90 day fasttrack program at ATP? You'd have been better off if you just let everyone think you were a riddle intern,

 

[777forever]

Not to mention they don't get block or better! Keep in mind too that because of the above system a good number of CRJ FOs aren't paid at the CRJ rate.

Exactly! Everyone gets so caught up in Horizons rates that many forget the backbone of any good contract is superior work rules. Horizon is not as high paying as many think. In fact, not even industry leading. The ALPA study found XJET to be the highest paying. I wonder where ASA would rank now that we have the new contract. I know we're above Horizon for sure.

 

[PowerRanger]

Exactly! Everyone gets so caught up in Horizons rates that many forget the backbone of any good contract is superior work rules. Horizon is not as high paying as many think. In fact, not even industry leading. The ALPA study found XJET to be the highest paying. I wonder where ASA would rank now that we have the new contract. I know we're above Horizon for sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia

 

[HoserASA]

Brad Holt has done good things for us already. Let's see where his leadership takes us,

I am also impressed with BH. It's the first time since I have been here (18+) that I have seen positive things happening. One thing that is long overdue here is feedback from the pilots and FAs. That was never welcomed before, except for the short time EP was here.

The FAs don't have a contract yet, but BH has awarded them profit sharing. That's very positive! Now if we can just get them to close the door so we're on time....

Hoser

 

[Abernathy]

I am also impressed with BH. It's the first time since I have been here (18+) that I have seen positive things happening. One thing that is long overdue here is feedback from the pilots and FAs. That was never welcomed before, except for the short time EP was here.

The FAs don't have a contract yet, but BH has awarded them profit sharing. That's very positive! Now if we can just get them to close the door so we're on time....

Hoser

Wow. Profit sharing? What a big man.

 

[HoserASA]

Wow. Profit sharing? What a big man.

Beats getting nothing extra for our efforts doesn't it?
I'll take the $400-900 a quarter all day my friend.

Hoser

 

[www.]

Wow. Profit sharing? What a big man.

Here we have folks a new ASA FO that knows everything!

 

[Abernathy]

Here we have folks a new ASA FO that knows everything!

Not new.

But anyways, profit sharing is a step forward. But it's not a fair contract. Talked to a few FAs yesterday and they didn't seem too excited about it. Hoser, you're right, it's better than nothing. I just hope the company doesn't see this as a reason to stretch out negotiations even more. "You have profit sharing, what more do you want??"