MN crash

[Fly91]

RIP guys, I hope it wasn't a case of the clients bullying the pilots into flying through the weather.
Sad day for all involved.

Either way, whether the clients were bullying them or not...pilots made a bad decision to land there......IF the weather was in fact that bad.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

RIP guys, I hope it wasn't a case of the clients bullying the pilots into flying through the weather.
Sad day for all involved.

clients bullying pilots?

 

[NCherches]

That article and the news is reporting it as a lear?

To the common news reporter every business jet is a LEARJET and every small piston airplain is a CESSNA...

 

[SLUF4]

http://static.cbslocal.com/station/...crash_liveairtrafficcontrolcommunications.mp3

ATC recording from the incident

 

[DOVPILOT]

Sad day for sure. RIP

http://www.eastcoastjets.com/pr7-31-08.htm

 

[Raskal]

Bad day, prayers for all the families involved. RIP

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Seems like it was a go-around that ended up in tragedy. That is, if eyewitness reports are to be trusted.

http://www.owatonna.com/news.php?viewStory=27786

 

[PilotswifeII]

RIP guys, I hope it wasn't a case of the clients bullying the pilots into flying through the weather.
Sad day for all involved.

It's true. You know in charter it's all about the "revenue." They want to go somewhere and they've got be there by a certain time--that's why they choose to charter jets. The company's dispatchers and schedulers will bend over backwards to promise the customer will get whatever they want--no matter what the risk. They don't care about the pilots. They want repeat customers. Not this time...

Sucks.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

I'm not sure pilots are ever "bullied" into going anywhere, especially with corporate executives on board. Those types usually are conservative and know the risks.

On a different note, does anyone know if runway 30 is grooved? After a morning of nothing but heavy rain, I wonder if it had drained sufficiently. It's only 5500' and with a slight tailwind...

Also, does the Hawker 800 have reversers? I remember seeing one without them, just the lift dumping system.

RIP

 

[say again]

It's true. You know in charter it's all about the "revenue." They want to go somewhere and they've got be there by a certain time--that's why they choose to charter jets. The company's dispatchers and schedulers will bend over backwards to promise the customer will get whatever they want--no matter what the risk. They don't care about the pilots. They want repeat customers. Not this time...

Sucks.

They can promise the customer all they want, and I will do my best to get them that, but I have no problem relaying the fact that things just aren't going as planned. Done it before, and will certainly do it again when needed. If the company queries me on why, I will tell them exactly what I was thinking and how i came up with my decision. I've never been second guessed and have always had my companies support.