Miracle on the Hudson: brought to you by Union workers

[Scope out RJ's]

Turtle,

You guys did get to vote. You voted in your reps, who in turn elected your merger/negotiating committees. Is that not correct?? Also, did those elected persons agree to binding arbitration?? Then after being told doh was doa, your elected reps either were delusional or afraid of the rank and file and chose not to budge. Again you were warned doh was not going to happen. While I understand the easts anger after years of stagnation and backwards movement YOU agreed to binding arbitration. You have lost all respect from your industry peers and somehow you blame ALPA for this.

Its useless to try to explain it to these (east hole) guys. They've been lied to and screwed over by their own lunion eadership for so many years, they can't tell who's telling the truth.

 

[CopilotDoug]

You have lost all respect from your industry peers and somehow you blame ALPA for this.

If industry peers are going to be THAT quick to judge (especially when they're not standing in the shoes of an "east-hole") is that "respect" really worth going after?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

If industry peers are going to be THAT quick to judge (especially when they're not standing in the shoes of an "east-hole") is that "respect" really worth going after?

Good question....

Would you rather have money or respect?

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

Not judging, just stating facts. They agreed to binding arbitration knowing the ALPA merger guidelines with another fellow ALPA pilot group. They were warned multiple times that doh was not going to happen. Doh was a total windfall for the east due to the disparity in hiring trends btw the two airlines. Imho, had the east been willing to compromise some they might have had a chance at a ratioed list that gave some credit for their longevity. Btw, I never used the term east-hole.

If industry peers are going to be THAT quick to judge (especially when they're not standing in the shoes of an "east-hole") is that "respect" really worth going after?

 

[birdman1]

The non-union pilots at jetBlue are just as capable.

Yes, we all know, you guys have also been very capable keeping this profession south of the equator. Keep up the good work.

 

[CopilotDoug]

This isn't self perpetuating safety... its compliance due to coersion... AMR isn't doing it because they want to to do the right thing for the right reason at the right time... they are doing it because the pain andcost of doing this is perceived to be less than if they have to face regulators or litagation....

Focus on the end result. Is it safer?