Midwest recalls

[Capt. Over]

back to brew city!

Howdy all....just got the call for the May 18th recall class. Will be 6 of us on going back on the -80. I got called two weeks ago for the class and bypassed, then yesterday(a week later)they called me again saying they had gone to the bottom of the list and were on the way back up again and this time I didn't have a choice to bypass......so, off to MKE I go! I'm excited to be going back, I had to really think about bypassing the first time around, but I guess it didn't really matter anyway. They still need around 3 more people for the May 18th class and I was in the middle of the April '01 DC-9 class so they are probably through my class on the back up the list. Can't wait to get started, see you all at the Landmark....time to renew my membership in the "Suds Club!"

 

[ultrarunner]

Howdy all....just got the call for the May 18th recall class....They still need around 3 more people for the May 18th class and I was in the middle of the April '01 DC-9 class so they are probably through my class on the back up the list....

Wow, they went 20 numbers beyond you, then back up in a week.

 

[HowlinMadMurdoc]

Wow, they went 20 numbers beyond you, then back up in a week.

Highly UNscientific prediction (more like a WAG) - ME will probably start hiring off the street by years' end.

HMM

 

[pilotyip]

2007 hiring boom on its way

 

[bobbysamd]

Hiring dud kool-aid v. facts

2007 hiring boom on its way

No way, Jose.

Briefly, the hiring landscape has changed since 1977, 1987 and 1997. The majors drive hiring and the majors remain in trouble. Try following the news, e.g., this very recent Washington Post article.

There will always be hiring, but don't expect hiring of "boom" proportions.

Congratulations to the recalled furloughees.

 

[pilotyip]

What does the post know?

Bobby, read my other thread commenting on what I saw at ATL Air Inc this weekend. A couple people even agreed with me. Post is out of touch with what is going on in the industry. If a couple legacys fail the same number of people will still fly but on another airline. It will not the legacys hiring this time; it will be regionals and nationals that have become majors who will be hiring and that hiring is driving the boom.

 

[bobbysamd]

Kit Darby kool-aid

[R]ead my other thread commenting on what I saw at ATL Air Inc this weekend.

More Kit Darby propaganda?? The Pied Piper of the Pilot Shortage? The man who has predicted a shortage of forty-thousand pilots since 1987??? (What an amazing coincidence; another year ending in "7"!) No, thanks, I've heard Kit's self-promoting, self-serving message/garbage for eighteen years and I don't need to read it again. I will take the the Washington Post over Kit Darby's half-truths anytime.

If a couple legacys fail the same number of people will still fly but on another airline. It will not the legacys hiring this time; it will be regionals and nationals that have become majors who will be hiring and that hiring is driving the boom.

The legacies haven't failed yet; moreover, how do you know that the regionals and nationals will pick up these routes? Not to mention that, G-d forbid, if a legacy(ies) fails, their pilots, if they're lucky, will move over to the LCCs. If they're lucky. So, in reality, new jobs will not be created but will shift to other companies, with no new openings created, and, therefore, no hiring boom. If anything, there could be shrinkage in the number of openings. Ahem, I forgot, any pilot hired, even if hired several times over, goes into Kit's databank.

In reality, they'll probably not be hired, a la the early '90s when Eastern, Pan Am, etc. closed down. Fortunately for them, most will have degrees, which would open doors for them outside of aviation.

 

[Flydaplane]

With all due respect, please drag the Kit Darby discussion to another thread.

Does anyone know how to get a copy of the bids online so I can peruse the schedules (I didn't see it on the MEC's website). Are the reserve schedules still as horrible as I remember?

 

[likeitis]

You won't be able to see the bids until you start. The bidding is all automated now on flica. Reserve is much much better now with the new contract. The first day can not start until 1100 for an earliest show of 1300. The last day of reserve must end by 1400. At least one block of four off a month and you can label any group as golden days. Scheduling is changed 100%. They are unbelieveable nice and treat you with upmost respect. They almost always give you 4 plus hours of notice. With these new rules reserve is not bad at all.

 

[Flydaplane]

Wow, with the late show and the early end that could save two days of commuting per week. Any other open crashpads in MKE besides the $175 apartment?