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Finally, what did it take...seven pages of people going "Ohh, ohh, hey, I want to do that flying! Oh yeah...sorry Skyway, that really sucks."

I find it more than a little ironic that XJT folks are creaming their pants for this Midwest flying, and turn around and say stuff like "If you're reading this and you fly for CHQ, go #### yourself."

Using that logic, if XJET is awarded the flying, you should see the same sort of message from all the Skyway pilots that have yet more bad news heaped upon them. XJET, welcome to the world of outsourcing. You reap what you sow. Don't expect the entire airline industry to give you guys a free pass just because "You need a home for the 69 aircraft" that you decided to keep. Don't take this as an attack - I'm merely pointing out that after pages and pages of insults thrown at the CHQ pilot group, it seems just a little silly to hear the XJET folk jumping on every possible opportunity for new flying. Oh, wait, I shouldn't be angry with the pilots - I should be angry with management, right? Ironic.

And as far as AWAC goes, they are, of course, the logical choice. I wasn't aware that Rankin left SYX under bad terms; that could sabotage the deal right there, as someone else pointed out. Who knows. I hope SYX does the flying - whether they have to add a new fleet type or not.

Take care,
-brew3 (ex Skyex-er)

That was the single smartest and most accurate thing I have ever read on FI, and it was spot on TRUE!!!! Kudos to you Brew3
 
Knob said:
If there's any truth to the Aviacsa rumor, we'll probably be seeing the same "go #$@% yourself" messages in spanish under the armrests soon. I agree with the others, AWAC is a class act.

I'm planing to write "Aviasca: Chupe mantequilla de mi culo" on every armrest on every airplane durring my next 4 day trip... Let me know when you figure out what it means.
 
ERJFO said:
I'm planing to write "Aviasca: Chupe mantequilla de mi culo" on every armrest on every airplane durring my next 4 day trip... Let me know when you figure out what it means.
is it "suck the butter of my ass"?
 
DOJET1 said:
you all need to grow upppppppppppppppppppp willie boys ,, get a life .... the same thing will happen to you ... good luck with the flying , and if you guys get syx flying dont ask for any seats on my flight to atw by by.

Umm, by this statement you are the one that really needs to grow up, using the jumpseat as a weapon is bull. Oh, and we already had this happen to us, brush up on your history next time.
 
this message is for the guys that are happy for giving it to us thank you... that your so happy to put us out .. thank you....
 
DOJET1 said:
this message is for the guys that are happy for giving it to us thank you... that your so happy to put us out .. thank you....
last I checked, we weren't undercutting anyone for this flying....again, using the J/S as a weapon is ignorant and shows a lack of intelligence with this particular issue...also, being pissed off at us because we are excited that our company answered the RFP is pretty ignorant....you're lying to yourself if you say you wouldn't be happy if you were in the same spot
 
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masedogg19 said:
last I checked, we weren't undercutting anyone for this flying....again, using the J/S as a weapon is ignorant and shows a lack of intelligence with this particular issue[/qu


have a good night...
 
masedogg19 said:
last I checked, we weren't undercutting anyone for this flying....again, using the J/S as a weapon is ignorant and shows a lack of intelligence with this particular issue...also, being pissed off at us because we are excited that our company answered the RFP is pretty ignorant....you're lying to yourself if you say you wouldn't be happy if you were in the same spot

I agree, We are not underbidding anyone by taking concessions, or helping a company out by going to an alter ego to steal flying from anyone. This is a RFP from a company and AWAC is one of the many to go for it. What happened with us and UAL is not the same as whats happening with SYX and Midex. We were being completely tossed to the curb and as a means for survival went with Airways. Since 95% of our group now commutes I don't think its out of line for people to get a little excited about possibly improving our QOL.

Heres a little Script for you.

AWAC Management: "B Scales and we'll get NWA flying"
Pilots: "No"
AWAC Management: "B Scales and we'll get Midex flying"
Pilots: "No"

All this equals---Whatever happens is out of our hands.
 
DOJET1 simply just doesn't have a clue. Maybe before getting bent out of shape a little research might be in order. No one is kicking anyone to the sidewalk, taking jobs etc.
 
Victor Meldrew said:
DOJET1 simply just doesn't have a clue. Maybe before getting bent out of shape a little research might be in order. No one is kicking anyone to the sidewalk, taking jobs etc.
VIC,
With your "12,000 hours" , go play on the majors board, or go impress a flight school CFI with your infinite ignorance.
 
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At least Skyway, Expressjet, and Air Wisconsin pilots can keep this discussion about the 50 seat RFP professional & civilized...
 
Moustache said:
VIC,
With your "12,000 hours" , go play on the majors board, or go impress a flight school CFI with your infinite ignorance.

Oh good....now we've resorted to making fun of each other and calling names....once again....we're not stealing flying....and....don't blame us (the pilot group) anyway.....we had no say.....as Sailing said above, we said NO when mgmt came to us and asked us for concessions (that would be undercutting) to get the Midwest flying.....maybe you should be pissed at your mgmt instead.....i thought you were getting more planes anyway????
 
This is just stupid. Nothing has happend yet. And if it does Skyway will most likely not have to lay anyone off. Pure attrition and adding those two planes you just bought will take care of that. AWAC, Express Jet, etc. pilot's have done nothing to provoke this response from Skyway's group. If your going to be angry at anyone look to your holding company. They are the ones who chose paying for airbuses instead of dojets.
 
As far as I know, Midwest has said that they don't have the money to fund regional jets for themselves so Skyway was never in the running for 50 seat jets in the first place. This is expansion and not replacement flying. Where's the problem here? Nobody's flying will be lost no matter who wins this RFP.
 
Someone in ops had mentioned that all the bids for the RFP came back too high. I guess that is why we are hearing rumors of us getting additional a/c even if they are Dos. Just curious if any fellow syxers have heard much about this?
 

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