Mesaba Re-Alignment 06-04

[gnx99]

Heads up; there's a revised Realignment Award. The Avro classes are pushed back 2 MONTHS and the CRJ class is pushed back 2.5 MONTHS. There are a few other changes to the pilot list.

Maybe they realized how much work they have ahead of them?

 

[gnx99]

Well I for one am relieved to finally see something happen, even if I did get "awarded" the furlough. I am going to collect some unemployment, and take my "travel benefits" to Europe. If after that XJ mgmt still has their head up their a$$, I am going back to school.

I'm on the list too, and I was thinking the same thing. But, I was researching going to London, and it would be approximately $255, to non-rev!!

$54 (w/tax) for the yearly privilage to non-rev.
$67 to get to LGW, and
$132.41 to get home!

 

[TurboAWD]

Well I for one am relieved to finally see something happen, even if I did get "awarded" the furlough. I am going to collect some unemployment, and take my "travel benefits" to Europe. If after that XJ mgmt still has their head up their a$$, I am going back to school.

Hey, W+B, when you get to Europe, perhaps you can find a nice (non-pilot, right?) man with some old school money, and just forget about the whole working thing.

On the other hand, you might look good in a KLM stew outfit.imp:


Turbo

And good luck to the XJ pilots- great group

 

[bri5150]

I wonder is all of those guys (or gals) that are crossed off of the revised realigment have already quit.

 

[Abbey]

Here is the way I see it Right or wrong, its done now.

I left when the BK was announced. I waited for almost 6 years before I had enough seniority to upgrade to a Saab while all of my former students were applying to Fed Ex and SWA. I wasn't a captain for more than 9 months when the BK hit and Mesaba put their annual furlough/downgrade plan into affect. I was one of those that kept "hanging around" just to see if we get some more growth so I could be a captain. I lost a ton of seniority at my current place of empoyment by doing just that.

My personal belief is that all regionals are equally crappy. Mesaba is no different. If one can find a better paying job outside the regionals, I say take it. The top 250 at XJ aren't leaving until the doors close for good so you might as well be at a place where captain, or reasonable fo pay, is an actual possibility.

 

[W&BWiz]

Hey, W+B, when you get to Europe, perhaps you can find a nice (non-pilot, right?) man with some old school money, and just forget about the whole working thing.

On the other hand, you might look good in a KLM stew outfit.imp:


Turbo

Dang, thats a good idea, why didn't I think of that? :blush:

 

[gnx99]

I wonder is all of those guys (or gals) that are crossed off of the revised realigment have already quit.

I was wondering about that. How much leeway does planning give to people who screwed up their preference bid, and later complained about it?

 

[W&BWiz]

I'm on the list too, and I was thinking the same thing. But, I was researching going to London, and it would be approximately $255, to non-rev!!

$54 (w/tax) for the yearly privilage to non-rev.
$67 to get to LGW, and
$132.41 to get home!

I just checked on how much it would cost to go as a regular paying traveler and it was $2000. I know $250 sounds like a lot, but when are you going to get the chance to collect unemployment, and use your non-rev privilidges. Because lets face it, if you can get vacation from your airline job your always going to be worrying about it getting canceled, and your never going to get a month or so.

 

[gnx99]

I just checked on how much it would cost to go as a regular paying traveler and it was $2000. I know $250 sounds like a lot, but when are you going to get the chance to collect unemployment, and use your non-rev privilidges. Because lets face it, if you can get vacation from your airline job your always going to be worrying about it getting canceled, and your never going to get a month or so.

Yeah, relatively it's not bad. I was just thinking of how great it would be to use the jumpseat privileges to get there

 

[arthompson]

Its funny you guys are talking about London, I'm headed there next month. gnx99 thanks for the figures for the trip, I was wondering what it was going to cost me. Was that in C or Y class?

W&BWiz if you're the kind that would look good in the KLM FA uniform you'd be welcome to go to London with me

 

[gnx99]

Its funny you guys are talking about London, I'm headed there next month. gnx99 thanks for the figures for the trip, I was wondering what it was going to cost me. Was that in C or Y class?

W&BWiz if you're the kind that would look good in the KLM FA uniform you'd be welcome to go to London with me

You're welcome. On MyMesaba there's a special .pdf document (fares) regarding travel to London, Amsterdam, or Paris on NWA. That was coach that I listed

 

[arthompson]

I'm PCL and I think we have it on our site as well. I just haven't looked at it.

On further review, no we don't.

 

[whaleroast]

Go to Amsterdam...I went there when I was 18 and didn't come back to the States until I was 20. Of course when I returned I looked like I was 30...too much time at the Doors Cafe, I guess.

 

[arthompson]

headed to the Farnborogh airshow in England, went to AMS last Fall, Loved it.

 

[gnx99]

I'm PCL and I think we have it on our site as well. I just haven't looked at it.

On further review, no we don't.

Ahh, I see. Paris, Amsterdam, and London all cost the same to get there ($67 Coach, $117 First).

Coming Back

London - USA: $132.41 Coach, $220.32 First
Paris - USA: $115.58 Coach, $165.58 First
Amsterdam - USA: $113.91 Coach, $163.91 First

 

[arthompson]

so I'm looking at $334 r/t in First. Now if I could find someone cute and female to go with me <LOL>

 

[W&BWiz]

Art, thanks for the invite, but Turbo would kill me with his disapproving eye.
Another thing to think about, once your over there, you can get pretty cheap airfare in and around Europe. A friend told me he bought a one way ticket from Ireland to AMS for forty bucks. So you should be able to move around cheaply.

 

[arthompson]

LOL....actually if I won't be doing Intra Europe this trip, I'm headed to Farnborough and then will spend a couple of days in the city taking pictures of all the things I had pictures of before the exwife took them when she ran off. I also have a buddy that works at AA Cargo there that I plan to go drinking with.

Oh and hey, you gotta give a guy points for trying <LOL>.

 

[TurboAWD]

Oh and hey, you gotta give a guy points for trying <LOL>.

Watch it there pal, I've got my eyes on you... and you too Wiz.
don't want to have to stick my boot up your a**

By the way, if you are looking to get to europe w/o the hassle of nonrev, perhaps you could borrow the Duke. You have good life insurance????


Turbo

 

[arthompson]

Turbo: didn't know she was your girl, and after seeing you're a Marine I'll give you a *WIDE* berth

I don't honestly consider NRSA a hassle, I've been in this business for years and there is no other way to travel. I fly First/Business class normally when I travel internationally and only care domesticly depending on the length.

I'm at PCL and I really think that those of you that didn't start telling all of us how we were going to loose all our flying because you guys got CRJ's are being screwed. Those that wished harm on their fellow airlinkers are getting the effects of Karma.

I truly hope to see all of us come out of this.

 

[TurboAWD]

Well, she wasn't "my" girl untill the bouncer at the bar married us last week. Just don't tell my wife.

And I still think XJ will be gettting some new aircraft shortly.

Turbo

 

[Northern Lights]

Furlough pass travel.

That sucks to hear about more furloughes. I was one of the last to go in February. They did give us 30 days of non-rev privleges, which I used to go to California.

One thing to remember when doing your planning, is that you no longer will have access to the phone listing system. You will have to deal with the pass ladies, who are very helpful, but it will take more time to get stuff set up.

Hopefully things will improve by the time the furloughes start, but after being on the street for nearly 4 months, I'm not that optomistic. When they come out with a reduction notice, they seem to stick to it. The last big one was the October reduction, but many of us weren't scheduled to be cut until the end of Feb. I figured that after 4 and half months, they would of revised something, but they stuck to it, eventhough they were trying to jr. man me just days before my furlough date.

Anyway, hang in there. I hope that we can all get back soon!

 

[xjhawk]

so all you know one another....? and how do you tell who are the girls in here....not that i am looking..i just found some of the posts weird til i thought.....mmmmthat must be a girl...

the last time i was furloughed i jumped to amsterdam and wow was it expensive even getting to the gate....you have no access to the gates unless you have a bourding pass, so they made me buy a bording pass. i think..if i remember right, it was like 60 euro....or 30....cannot remember

 

[TurboAWD]

Girls? Who let a girl in here?

 

[007]

Maybe you're getting CAL's Q400's

 

[W&BWiz]

I know hawk, its still hard to believe they let girls fly huh?
As for the boarding pass, apparently in Europe you have to pay taxes whether your jumpseating or not. If jumpseating you can go talk to an old guy in DTW and pay the taxes ahead of time. Apparently the Euro conversion is better here than there.

 

[MesabaDriver]

Here is one for ya. Maybe its already been said. How is XJ going to impose the new contract they are so sure about winning in court from us on the 1st of August, so they say, and then expect to furlough on the 22nd of August and move the rest on Sept 1st. Unless there is a deal made, then there wont be a furlough because the union and pilot group has already voted to strike and will over an abrogated contract. So if we are all on strike whos gonna get furloughed and moved? Any answers to that. Do tell the theories.

 

[Napoleon TNT]

...its still hard to believe they let girls fly huh?

The sky ain't pink, ma'am.



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