Mesaba Online Application

[Limeyflyer]

I thought that there were some people already interviewing for them... Also, if you were hired for an F/O position, wouldn't you just bid Captain right away and hold it if you have the time? BTW, my status says "Approved for Review" and I put in for the Captain position.

CM

If it changed to Approved for Review you will be getting a call from HR. I got my call today, interview oct 22nd. I am hearing that the union is telling new F/O's to not do the immediate upgrade until they have a yr with the company. You will get a call CM.

 

[SplitBar]

I am hearing that the union is telling new F/O's to not do the immediate upgrade until they have a yr with the company.

From the last XJ MEC update......



Item 2: Upgrade Advisory for Pilots Still on Probation

A pilot is on probation during their first 365 days of active service. During this probationary time period, “…the Company may discharge the pilot at its sole discretion with no resort to the grievance procedure or System Board of Adjustment.”

A first year pilot who bids to upgrade to a captain position is more vulnerable to discharge for proficiency reasons than any other pilot, and is not due the same contractual protections. If you are on probation, please very carefully consider your own skill level, judgment, and experience before you bid for the upgrade. Factors such as familiarity with aircraft systems, the weather patterns we fly in, the airports we serve, your practical experience with our FOM, as well as raw flying ability should be considered when making this decision. We encourage you to consult with the Captains you are flying with and ask for their honest feedback. Many talented pilots are simply not ready for an upgrade in their first year, and the vast majority of airline Captains at all airlines have had well over one year of service before they became Captains. No one wants a failure on their training record, and, even worse, no one wants to be without any job at all. If a probationary pilot struggles in training, Mesaba MAY elect to terminate that pilot – they are not obligated to return a probationary pilot to his previously held position.

We are not trying to absolutely discourage all first year pilots from upgrading. Some pilots will do just fine. We are trying to say that you should think long and hard about the risk you incur in attempting to upgrade in the first year, and to be sure that it is in your own best interest to make that attempt.

Item 3: Flow Through Update

As a reminder to all pilots, the NWA MEC has finalized a Letter of Agreement that provides for Mesaba pilots to flow through to NWA. The final details are still being worked out, but if there is no agreement by November 1, there will be an arbitration decision by December 1 that will resolve all of the outstanding issues.

The Letter of Agreement between NWA and the NWA MEC allows for 3 Mesaba pilots to go to NWA each month, starting in January 2008, and 9 pilots each month commencing in October 2008 (provided NWA is actively hiring pilots). In light of the potentially very short period of time between finalizing and actually starting the Flow Through, our more senior pilots may be asked to determine whether they wish to flow in relatively short order. A Mesaba pilot will have ONE opportunity to accept the offer to flow.

January is fast approaching. If you are on the top part (1-150) of the Mesaba Seniority List, PLEASE BE READY TO MAKE THIS DECISION. We will, of course, continue to update you with more details as they become available.

 

[Limeyflyer]

Thanks Split for that info, I appreciate it

 

[SplitBar]

No prob Man! See ya soon

:beer:

 

[Captain Morgan]

This is all good info! Thanks for clarifying that Limeyflyer. Good luck!

CM

 

[flyinhigh21]

My app had said "approved for review" and I haven't received a call...

 

[Limeyflyer]

Mine had said approved for review for like 6 days

 

[Raskal]

Two of us interviewed today, went well and we both received conditional offers for the captain spot (pending PRIA paperwork) during the interview process.

Good luck limey, you're next! I dropped a good word for ya.

 

[Abbey]

Heck, I should apply for my old CA slot. They already typed me and it sounds like if I sit just right in the interview I could sweet talk them into getting my '99 seniority number back.

All kidding aside, take what "Dad" says between the lines to heart. Highly qualified pilots will not be applying to Mesaba or any other regional for that matter. There are too many places hiring with more to offer. That being said, XJ and any other regional, are great places to learn some skills and move on if you are on the lower end of the experience level.

HOWEVER....

Those hired from '96-'01 had very little experience as well. XJ was growing, majors were hiring, and other regionals were getting jets. XJ got the low timers when everyone was requiring around 1500tt/500me. Doesn't seem like much has changed except the numbers in the hiring mins.

Good luck to all the applicants and best wishes for those friends I have that are still there.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Raskal: What class date did they give you?

CM

 

[Limeyflyer]

Good luck limey, you're next! I dropped a good word for ya.

Thanks Man, I will talk to you later, Have fun in Dulles today with FP

 

[Raskal]

Raskal: What class date did they give you?

CM

No date yet, they are aiming for Nov or Dec.

Funny thing is, I got home and found out I made it to the interview stage at NWA...now I'm trying to set a date for that.