Mesaba loses 13 more Saabs.

[CptMurf]

Just heard 13 more are leaving early next year.

Great, round three...

 

[gnx99]

That leaves 26 Saabs left by the end of 2010.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Down to 26? Yuck. How many were there at the peak (back when we had 142 and that former 9E plane that kept dropping flaps in cruise)?

 

[The Transporter]

whats your source capt murf?...i heard something similar a little while ago via maintenance

 

[xjgearbtch]

it's on mymesaba. I guess they couldn't wait for "F-U Friday's" announcement

 

[johnboy99]

Welcome to the dysfunctional Delta family boys. First they will get rid of those Saab's and then they will tell you your cost are too high and put those shiny new 900's up for bid to the lowest bidder. Take a pay cut and you get to keep them or don't play ball and see which other DCI brother is flying your planes.

Don't believe me look at Pinnacle flying 900's once flown by Mesa. ASA flying 700's with a Comair N numbers once flown by Comair. Comair flying 200's with a Skywest N number once owned by Comair given to Skywest and given back to Comair. Ah, the fun is just beginning and Delta wouldn't have it any other way.

Good luck guys.

 

[Northern Lights]

1. I thought that the Saabs were the "Core Business"

2. There were 6 empty planes parked in the 30R pad at MSP yesterday

3. I think that I preferred the dysfunctional family of NWA/PCL/Mesaba better than the new Delta.

 

[contrail67]

Welcome to the dysfunctional Delta family boys. First they will get rid of those Saab's and then they will tell you your cost are too high and put those shiny new 900's up for bid to the lowest bidder. Take a pay cut and you get to keep them or don't play ball and see which other DCI brother is flying your planes.

Don't believe me look at Pinnacle flying 900's once flown by Mesa. ASA flying 700's with a Comair N numbers once flown by Comair. Comair flying 200's with a Skywest N number once owned by Comair given to Skywest and given back to Comair. Ah, the fun is just beginning and Delta wouldn't have it any other way.

Good luck guys.

I hate to say it ........but he is right.

 

[Whataboutbob]

I love how these announcements come out in our Senior leader's weekly updates. It got a nice one paragraph announcement right in the middle of it. "Oh by the way we are parking 13 more airplanes" Which 13 + 10 prior works out to close to 25% of our fleet. You would think it would be followed up by some more info. Such as "Delta expects to park the rest of the Saabs". Or "Delta knows what its doing but we can't announce it for competive reasons", I guess something would be nice that makes you feel like your company president is worth what he is paid. All I get out of his weekly updates are "nice job on the completion factor", "aircraft 915,916 got painted and so on". If that is all he really does all week, update his one page summary for that week containing the same info over and over we are all in trouble.

 

[j3ben]

Down to 26? Yuck. How many were there at the peak (back when we had 142 and that former 9E plane that kept dropping flaps in cruise)?

Wow, that brings back memories. Didn't someone overtemp the engines when the flaps extended at cruise from DTW to PLN?

 

[Hawker800]

How are the street captains hired in Jan. 08 making out in this?

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Wow, that brings back memories. Didn't someone overtemp the engines when the flaps extended at cruise from DTW to PLN?

It happened at least twice. Both engines replaced both times as I recall. Last time I saw that pink POS, it was down at Celsius at KBNA waiting for another sucker airline to pick it up.

4 CT7s. . . that's gotta be pretty cheap, right?

 

[profit]

It was 83 Saabs at peak. 49 B+, 23 A, 11 B-

 

[WMUSIGPI]

How are the street captains hired in Jan. 08 making out in this?

All are downgrading, most to 900 FO. With the latest announcement they may not have any job soon.....

 

[Flybet3]

Hell at this rate some of the guys that have been here for 4 years and went through the last BK might even go back to the right seat.

 

[MACH-TUCK]

Welcome to the dysfunctional Delta family boys. First they will get rid of those Saab's and then they will tell you your cost are too high and put those shiny new 900's up for bid to the lowest bidder. Take a pay cut and you get to keep them or don't play ball and see which other DCI brother is flying your planes.

Don't believe me look at Pinnacle flying 900's once flown by Mesa. ASA flying 700's with a Comair N numbers once flown by Comair. Comair flying 200's with a Skywest N number once owned by Comair given to Skywest and given back to Comair. Ah, the fun is just beginning and Delta wouldn't have it any other way.

Good luck guys.

I don't think 9E is flying any 900's that used to be at Mesa, that was just for a short while. Those 900's are now at Mesaba.

 

[N813CA]

No the 900's are now at ASA. They agreed to get rid of 20 50's for 10 of those 90's. Mesaba was supposed to get them for a month or two after Comair was supposed to get them. Sounds like Delta doesn't like Mesaba almost as much as they don't like Comair. 12+ years to be a captain. 15+ years to not be on reserve.

 

[Tarzan]

Paging Seven.... Paging Seven...

Remember when you were shooting off your keyboard telling everyone how Mesaba was going to be the new premiere regional for Delta? I tried to warn you then the fun had not begun for you guys. Monster Buck then emerged from his hole in the woods and demanded to know where anyone was gloating. Point is, I called this one long ago and I was shouted down. Delta will not sue itself for breach of contract. Comair sees this everyday and now the Mesaba guys are getting hosed as well. The simply fact here is that until the retirements start to hit again, we are all in for a tough go. The wholly owned will bore the burnt of it though. Easier to end those contracts than with outside sources.

 

[Monster Buck]

Paging Seven.... Paging Seven...

Remember when you were shooting off your keyboard telling everyone how Mesaba was going to be the new premiere regional for Delta? I tried to warn you then the fun had not begun for you guys. Monster Buck then emerged from his hole in the woods and demanded to know where anyone was gloating. Point is, I called this one long ago and I was shouted down. Delta will not sue itself for breach of contract. Comair sees this everyday and now the Mesaba guys are getting hosed as well. The simply fact here is that until the retirements start to hit again, we are all in for a tough go. The wholly owned will bore the burnt of it though. Easier to end those contracts than with outside sources.

"demanded to know where anyone was gloating" What the does that mean? You were "shouted down" you mean "shouted at?" "shot down?"...." what the hell is "bore the burnt?", did you mean "bear the brunt?"

Iz yu still dunk? Man i are jealouse, that must have been on hell of a nite! Peace man! We are all family! Ain't no one trippin, we know you knos what going on. You spit da truth.:beer:

 

[snap145]

this is complete and utter crap and only another indication as to why this industry is failing by the day...one of the few companies with descent work rules and theyre getting cut up...hope you guys get more jets...I have furloughed buddies over there....

 

[surplus1]

Remember when you were shooting off your keyboard telling everyone how Mesaba was going to be the new premiere regional for Delta? I tried to warn you then the fun had not begun for you guys. Monster Buck then emerged from his hole in the woods and demanded to know where anyone was gloating. Point is, I called this one long ago and I was shouted down. Delta will not sue itself for breach of contract. Comair sees this everyday and now the Mesaba guys are getting hosed as well. The simply fact here is that until the retirements start to hit again, we are all in for a tough go. The wholly owned will bore the burnt of it though. Easier to end those contracts than with outside sources.

Sooner or later they will all learn what it means to be owned and loved by Delta ....... the "Borg" of the airline industry. Just be paitient; if you haven't been screwed yet .... you will be, it's only a matter of time.

 

[CptMurf]

Welcome to the dysfunctional Delta family boys. First they will get rid of those Saab's and then they will tell you your cost are too high and put those shiny new 900's up for bid to the lowest bidder. Take a pay cut and you get to keep them or don't play ball and see which other DCI brother is flying your planes.

Don't believe me look at Pinnacle flying 900's once flown by Mesa. ASA flying 700's with a Comair N numbers once flown by Comair. Comair flying 200's with a Skywest N number once owned by Comair given to Skywest and given back to Comair. Ah, the fun is just beginning and Delta wouldn't have it any other way.

Good luck guys.

Wow... This has been misquoted several times in this thread so here's the lowdown.

Five of Mesa's Delta 900's are at Mesaba. They left Mesa and were almost awarded to Comair. Then temporarily assigned to Pinnacle. Then transferred to XJ. Of the 10 900's at ASA, 2 are Mesa airframes and the other 8 came from the factory, although on paper they made the full circle with the others. The 900's Pinnacle flies were DAL options, but leased by Pinnacle outright.

XJ over the years has flown Saabs with 9E and Bar Harbour tail numbers. And we fly 200's with 9E and Comair tail numbers. We may be new to the DAL system, but we've been in this game awhile to know how to play.

 

[johnboy99]

Wow... This has been misquoted several times in this thread so here's the lowdown.

Five of Mesa's Delta 900's are at Mesaba. They left Mesa and were almost awarded to Comair. Then temporarily assigned to Pinnacle. Then transferred to XJ. Of the 10 900's at ASA, 2 are Mesa airframes and the other 8 came from the factory, although on paper they made the full circle with the others. The 900's Pinnacle flies were DAL options, but leased by Pinnacle outright.

XJ over the years has flown Saabs with 9E and Bar Harbour tail numbers. And we fly 200's with 9E and Comair tail numbers. We may be new to the DAL system, but we've been in this game awhile to know how to play.

Thanks for clearing this up for me. Sounds like a true love story straight from the hills of West Virginia. Everybody from the DCI family gets a turn to get inside of one but they never leave the DCI family. Glad I was able to escape from that fiasco.

 

[MALSR]

Welcome to the dysfunctional Delta family boys. First they will get rid of those Saab's and then they will tell you your cost are too high and put those shiny new 900's up for bid to the lowest bidder. Take a pay cut and you get to keep them or don't play ball and see which other DCI brother is flying your planes.

Don't believe me look at Pinnacle flying 900's once flown by Mesa. ASA flying 700's with a Comair N numbers once flown by Comair. Comair flying 200's with a Skywest N number once owned by Comair given to Skywest and given back to Comair. Ah, the fun is just beginning and Delta wouldn't have it any other way.

Good luck guys.

Well, you don't have to look any further than Mesaba flying Pinnacle tail numbers either.

 

[Tarzan]

"demanded to know where anyone was gloating" What the does that mean? You were "shouted down" you mean "shouted at?" "shot down?"...." what the hell is "bore the burnt?", did you mean "bear the brunt?"

Iz yu still dunk? Man i are jealouse, that must have been on hell of a nite! Peace man! We are all family! Ain't no one trippin, we know you knos what going on. You spit da truth.:beer:

Is that the best you have? Are you twelve years old tomorrow?

Ever hear of shouted down? You don't agree with something and you elevate the volume or tone of the post. I did not use the term where incorrectly. And I am sorry I used bore instead of bear. It was the incorrect context and I am sorry!

GFY! :beer:

 

[big shacks]

Yeah cause XJ was treated so well by NWA the last six years wtf! Same sh-t different storm. It doesn't matter who the mother ship is, all regionals will get the shaft. Two years of growth, followed by two years of hell. Standard ops

 

[Monster Buck]

Is that the best you have? Are you twelve years old tomorrow?

Ever hear of shouted down? You don't agree with something and you elevate the volume or tone of the post. I did not use the term where incorrectly. And I am sorry I used bore instead of bear. It was the incorrect context and I am sorry!

GFY! :beer:

:crying:
:crying::crying: You are such a whiner. Did Joe M. turn you down again. You two crack me up. Everything that is wrong with ASA is Delta and SkyWest's fault and F anyone who flies for them. When Mesaba, after going through bk hell, finally gets a bone you jump all over anyone who was happy about it. Since we all know that growth was promised to you and your ASA with their 80%. Surprise, surprise Mesaba is shrinking their Saab fleet and you jump in with your holier than thou attitude about how you told them so. Stop getting your panties in a wad and relax. You are only beating down fellow pilots that have nothing to do with your beloved ASA.uke:

 

[xjhawk]

lets just stick to the facts here..... are we not losing the Saabs? I just wonder if I have a seat reserved for me in that sniny new 900? I even saved my FO stripes for just such occasion! I looked at them and they are perfect to be worn backwards!

 

[GOULET!]

I thought it was refered to as "The 9".

 

[Raskal]

I thought it was refered to as "The 9".

Oh no my friend, it is not just "The 9"...it is 'THE 9' (said with a looonng E).

I'm in a downgrade class for this thing now, everyone (except the class that is) is downright fascinated with this airplane. Well, when they aren't talking about the avro anyway. :smash:

Good luck to everyone, and that means all the fellow DCI pilots...I think it's all a downward plunge from here!