Mesaba big annoucement imminent

[Mel Sharples]

When I originally made this post, all info was accurate. The announcement could still come at any time but apparently NWA is dragging their heels.

The deal between XJ and ALPA is done. XJ is ready to go, we are just waiting for NWA to award the planes. For some reason NWA got cold feet. It was a "done deal" and still could be. Not sure why NWA slowed this down. XJ hiring will continue at accelerated rates until further notice.

For anyone who cares, I am not a union rep or officer of any kind. None of this info came from ALPA sources.

Hopefully NWA decides to keep going and makes the annoucement. Something spooked them and I really wish I knew what it was.

 

[IFIxUmUBrakeUm]

Yet another Let Down!!!!!!!!

 

[DoinTime]

I don't have an actual pinnacle contract on me so I'm using what is posted at http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/content/view/78/18/ (though the website admin does round the cents up or down) and this is for 40-59 seat rates

5 year Mesaba CRJ CA 64.26
5 year Pinnacle CRJ CA 62.00

8 year XJ CA 70.21
8 year 9E CA 67.00

15 year XJ CA 86.35
15 year 9E CA 82.00

FO rates respectively
XJ newhire 23.54
9E 21.00

5 year XJ FO 35.80
5 year 9E FO 34.00

If the Pinnacle cotract posted at this website is current, Mesaba is higher and never undercuts 9E, though it's a matter of dollars and pennies which even in the yearly salary isn't even that much more when work rules play a bigger role in your final W-2.

T-handel...I think you are confusing the 4-5 year capt. rate at PCL with the 5-6 year rate at Mesaba. The current 4-5 year rate at PCL is $62.14. I don't have a current copy of your contract but by my calculations your 4-5 year rate should be $63.37. Someone correct me if I am wrong. During the period from May 1, 2004 to your DOS +1 PCL capt. rates exceeded Mesaba rates through all compareable longevities. Not that amounts we are talking about even matter.

 

[T-handle]

The current Mesaba 4-5 year CA rate is $62.37

But like I said, I'm getting my info from a 3rd part website that doesn't guarantee accuracy. Like I said earlier, we're talking dollars and/or pennies. Doesn't matter if we're fitty cent cheaper or more, it's the same.

To compare your rates, between May 1,2004 to our DOS + 1, is like comparing apples to oranges, since your contract is done and ours is beginning with 4 years left. Work rules play a big, if not bigger role, in how much really shows up in your W-2. best of luck in your negotiations.

 

[psycho]

Hold the presses

It's official !! The big announcement is out and reads as follows:

Drumroll please...

Mesaba pilots say " No more fooling around, we really are going to strike this time !! "

WORD

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Overheard in the DTW crew room:

An FO's husband was waiting for his new-hire class date, and Mesaba cancelled the class. They told him not to make any major plans around a job at Mesaba.

Maybe not enough sim time for all the people they've already got in training, or maybe this is when JS and TW show up in trucker hats and tell us we've been Punk'd.

Any new hires had their class cancelled?

 

[T-handle]

Waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out of the bushes...

Which class was cancelled?

 

[Towelie]

Overheard in the DTW crew room:

An FO's husband was waiting for his new-hire class date, and Mesaba cancelled the class. They told him not to make any major plans around a job at Mesaba.

Maybe not enough sim time for all the people they've already got in training, or maybe this is when JS and TW show up in trucker hats and tell us we've been Punk'd.

Any knew hires had their class cancelled?

They haven't decided on the next date for Indoc, but NOTHING has been cancelled.

Chill, people... We are still interviewing like CRAZY. Planning just hasn't decided what the dates will be.

 

[T-handle]

Low staffing levels, lets postpone classes...

They're cancelling vacation slots in May and asking us to sell off vacation.

So all this talk about postponing classes under low staffing levels? Crew "Planning"??? It's going to be a wonderful summer.....

 

[CptOver]

Just at the training center yesterday, you should see all the new black suits running around. Scott and Chris were interviewing all day yesterday. Word I got was that the accelerated hirings would continue through the summer, 150 newhires total. We are pushing the limits of the sims (Indy sim visuals dying/Avro sim multiple recurring writeups), Janice was told to buy "ALL AVAILABLE SIM TIME" and we will be training on the back side of the clock soon. Nothing even resembled a delayed or cancelled class.

 

[Dodge]

Yep, that is the big announcement. Vacations cancelled. I love the management at XJ. They do such a good job of running an airline.

Vacnacy 05-03 "there will be no saab upgrades!"

Vacancy 05-04 all saab capatin class

Vacation cancelled in May.

It's like Gomer and cousin Goober are running the planning deptartment.

 

[avrodriver]

"When I originally made this post, all info was accurate. The announcement could still come at any time but apparently NWA is dragging their heels."



Probably not related but concidering there will be up to 70 50 seaters laying around once AWAC places their aircraft with Airways (announced today).....NW may still looking to pick up a deal. 50 seaters at firesale rates or 44 seaters from a respectable well run established regional. Who the he.ll knows right? AD

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

I'm pretty sure what I heard, but maybe that was a new way of saying "Thanks but no thanks" by HR. Glad to hear that classes aren't cancelled.

Soapbox: XJ, 9E: Stop ripping on eachother! If ya wanna rip on someone's piloting skills, I dunno, how about Mohammed Atta. Or GoJet applicants. Take your pick.

Kip, I reckon you know a lot about cyberspace. Y-You ever come across anything like time travel?

 

[fly4ever]

patience grasshoppers....

It's time for this thread to die and if/when an announcement is made, then by all means, start a new thread.

 

[RampTower]

Dude, we must keep this thread alive until something BIG happens around Mesaba. This thread is probably the most exciting news we've had in a long time!