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Mesaba back stab

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A 9e buddy of mine said some jack@ss Mesaba captain ratted on his f.o. for drinking under 12 hours and got him fired.

If that is the case, that captain is scum of the lowest kind. I hope like he11 that I heard that wrong or that the story is different. Couldn't you just tell him to call in sick?
 

Ralgha

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Do you know the whole story? Maybe the captain DID ask the FO to call in sick first, and the FO refused.

Anyway, the FO shouldn't have been drinking in the first place. The captain shouldn't need to call in sick to cover the FO's sorry ass. Why should we expect someone to cover for us when we knowingly do something illegal (in many ways) and fundementally stupid? Take some responsibility for your actions.

That said, I would probably insist that my fellow crewmember call in sick in that situation.
 

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I don't have a dog in this fight since I don't work for Mesaba but I believe this incident was discussed here a couple of weeks ago. Use the search function, I don't think the captain ratted out the FO though. I could be wrong.........
 

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If you can't control yourself enough to not drink 12 hrs prior to duty, then it's your own fault if you get fired. I don't know the whole story and it would have been much cooler if the captain called in sick FOR the FO.

At the same time, people need to start taking some RESPONSIBILITY for themselves. Good riddens to the drunk fo.
 

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The fo got what he deserved. He shouldn't of put the captain in the situation in the first place.
 

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Did you mean "he shouldn't have put the captain in the situation in the first place"?
 

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jackbo said:
A 9e buddy of mine said some jack@ss Mesaba captain ratted on his f.o. for drinking under 12 hours and got him fired.

If that is the case, that captain is scum of the lowest kind. I hope like he11 that I heard that wrong or that the story is different. Couldn't you just tell him to call in sick?

Hey Jackbo are you sure you don't work at 9E. You sure do have the IQ and maturity of one of the Gulfstreams dipsticks.
 
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jackbo said:
A 9e buddy of mine said some jack@ss Mesaba captain ratted on his f.o. for drinking under 12 hours and got him fired.

If that is the case, that captain is scum of the lowest kind. I hope like he11 that I heard that wrong or that the story is different. Couldn't you just tell him to call in sick?

Way to weigh in on something you know nothing about.

The Captain called for guidance and the F/O ended up calling Dispatch himself. The F/O was not "ratted on" by the Captain. He got canned because HE was drinking under 12 hours and he was still on probation.

No one got the F/O fired but himself. He should apologize to the Captain for even putting him in that situation.
 

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Jimdandy said:
Hey Jackbo are you sure you don't work at 9E. You sure do have the IQ and maturity of one of the Gulfstreams dipsticks.

Yeah, because you really sound so mature yourself. :rolleyes:
 

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I had an FO that showed up downstairs for a 5:30am report waisted AND with a Bud Light in his hand. :) Told him to go call in sick... he said no he was ready to go. In this case I called the Chief Pilot directly, he was gone that afternoon after we deadheaded back. A beer, or even two beers less than 12 greater than 8 hours.... OK. Reporting with a Bud Light in your hand.... Priceless!!

True story! Some people shouldn't be in any kind of position of responsibility. This was one of them. We had a guy get booted from initial groundschool because he was drinking during the lunch break. And I am not talking about a beer during lunch!

My Grandfather always told me, "Thank God for stupid people, if everyone was smart think how hard it would be to get a job."
 
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The captain's first responsibility is to the safety of the flight and the passengers. If the FO can't control himself enough to go one night without drinking and the captain can't persuade him to do what he needs to to cover his butt then he has a duty to do whatever is necessary to make sure that the FO doesn't get on the airplane. Any personal buddy/buddy considerations have to come second.

We've had enough trouble with drunk pilots recently that one would think we would be strictly abiding by the regs and company procedures regarding alcohol.
 

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FlechasDid you mean "he shouldn't have put the captain in the situation in the first place"?




Pretty simple jscka$$ the fo should have been more responsable than to be drinking under 12 hours and put the captain in that situation.

I wouldn't want a jacka$$ like you or that fired fo in my airplane.

With all the media of the America West pilots now, I don't feel sorry for anyone who violates the drinking rule.

WJ
 

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Towelie said:
Way to weigh in on something you know nothing about.

The Captain called for guidance and the F/O ended up calling Dispatch himself. The F/O was not "ratted on" by the Captain. He got canned because HE was drinking under 12 hours and he was still on probation.

No one got the F/O fired but himself. He should apologize to the Captain for even putting him in that situation.

Thanks for the clarification. So this is a different situation than the 'rock star' throwing his furniture off the balcony?

As nice a guy as I am, I've had F/O's removed for being 'sick'
 

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Captain did the right thing....same thing I woulda done. If that FO is drunk, and the capt does nothing, then a fed shows up, guess who gets in trouble too?? That's RIIIIIIGHT!!! The 'sole authority and responsibility' for the safety of the flight does. How'd you like to have that on your record?
 

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Whoa...bad language, poor taste. GMC gets to vist the box for 5 days.
 
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wjpilot said:
Pretty simple jscka$$ the fo should have been more responsable than to be drinking under 12 hours and put the captain in that situation.

I wouldn't want a jacka$$ like you or that fired fo in my airplane.

With all the media of the America West pilots now, I don't feel sorry for anyone who violates the drinking rule.

WJ

I was correcting your grammar you ignorant. This doesn't mean anything, maybe it's the way it sounds, but that's about it: "He shouldn't of put the captain in the situation in the first place."

I totally agree though, the Captain did the right thing.

Learn to write and then you can bitch all you want.
 

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Let's see, by drinking under 12 hours he:

1. Disrespected the operating policies of the airline, thereby risking the reputation (and thereby profitability) of the airline. Would you want your airline to have a reputation for having a bunch of rowdy alcoholics?

2. Showed contempt for his fellow crewmembers by trying to show up for flying after drinking after hours (thinking he wouldn't get caught). I've been in this scenario, and let me tell you, the company AUTOMATICALLY assumes the whole crew is GUILTY.

3. Demonstrated extremely poor judgement by (probably) showing up under the influence to fly revenue passengers. And if not this time, he would've in the future. Someone who can't go without booze for a couple of days is an alcoholic . . . and is a incident/accident waiting to happen.

I hope the FAA yanked his ticket for good. This chump has no business transporting my loved ones. No-one would think twice about calling a bus company if they saw a driver sipping out of a flask . . . why should pilots be held to a lesser standard?
 

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GetMyCoffee said:
Flechas, did you mean "I have a big hairy banana hanging out of my fudge packed ass?" You stupid butt pirate.
You guys have some weird fantasys about each other.
 

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They weren't drunk.

He didn't show up to fly after drinking.

He misread his pattern.

They fired the two FA's that was with him.

And yes, the captain could have handled it a little different.
 

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Broke in CVG said:
My Grandfather always told me, "Thank God for stupid people, if everyone was smart think how hard it would be to get a job."

I love that!
 
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