Mesa

[brokedash]

Word through inside sources there say internal communication to employees confirms the airline is getting four more 900s for the US operation.

 

[booo]

Must be true! My sisters nieces turtle told me the same thing!

 

[Turbine Pilot]

It is true. 4 more 900's for Airways. Contract extended for all the Airways flying to 2021 now.

 

[mesaserf]

From the For-What's-It-Worth department, JO told a group of instructors that Airways came to him and asked if we would rebid on the PHX flying that Sky King is doing. I guess Airways is not happy with their performance. Their contract ends around June I think.

Just a rumor so nobody get their angel underwear in a knot.

The four 900's heading for CLT have been on the books for a while now.

 

[amcnd]

Can you think of a better way to put cost preasure on SKW.... Just have Mesa through in a bid... They (Mesa) are behind on there E175 program. How would they get 200's back up and running again...

 

[Turbine Pilot]

I think Mesa will already have a heck of a time staffing the 30 E175's as well as the 4 addtional CRJ 900's and any attrition to come about with new pilots. Mesa already had a hard time just finding them for the 9 CRJ 900's we finally got staffed 6 months after the last one came online. All the regionals are already having a hard time finding pilots with 1500 hours. So I think that Airways dropping Skywest and giving more flying to Mesa is next to impossible for Mesa to handle at this point in the game.

 

[N4niner206]

I think Mesa will already have a heck of a time staffing the 30 E175's as well as the 4 addtional CRJ 900's and any attrition to come about with new pilots. Mesa already had a hard time just finding them for the 9 CRJ 900's we finally got staffed 6 months after the last one came online. All the regionals are already having a hard time finding pilots with 1500 hours. So I think that Airways dropping Skywest and giving more flying to Mesa is next to impossible for Mesa to handle at this point in the game.

As far as I know, the E175 is still on the original schedule that the company presented when they announced the operation.

Regarding staffing - I have a feeling that Mesa has some sort of staffing plan figured out already. What would happen... for example... if a certain regional or regionals lost a contract at the same time Mesa picked one up? For example, Air Wisconsin? Or, what if Mesa is planning to acquire another regional just to pick up the pilots? Yeah some would quit, but we all know that many would hang in there, at least until they move on. I can think of a few carriers that could fit the bill...

I'm not claiming that these things will happen. I'm just suggesting that there may be ways around the staffing problem... for now. We all know how these airlines get shuffled around.

 

[brokedash]

OO's contract allows 200s to be replaced with 700s. Makes you wonder if US would want Mesa to takeover with larger planes?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

The Price is Right

 

[azcz10]

I've been hearing "Quick Upgrade" at Mesa. How long is a quick upgrade? (To thwart the useless replies of some, I understand that we can only predict with the information we have at hand and if something changes it's anybody's guess....who would have predicted the outcome of the superbowl?)

 

[blesko]

I've been hearing "Quick Upgrade" at Mesa. How long is a quick upgrade? (To thwart the useless replies of some, I understand that we can only predict with the information we have at hand and if something changes it's anybody's guess....who would have predicted the outcome of the superbowl?)

Was in a Mesa Jumpseat and the fo was at 6 years at not able to hold an upgrade for what its worth.

 

[azcz10]

Well that ain't quick for sure. LOL!

 

[N4niner206]

For what its worth, you currently need about 7 years for upgrade. I think the predicted quick upgrades are due to the fact that Mesa has recently announced additional airplanes to nearly doubles its fleet size over the next couple of years. Those quick upgrades have not happened yet - as the new planes arrive, the longevity required will quickly drop. Bear in mind that just a year ago, the bottom FO on property was nearly at 6 years with the company.

Nine 900s have been delivered so far. 30 EMB175s coming, and 4 more 900s confirmed yesterday. Additional rumor (with some evidence that lends merit) for yet another 10 900s that have not been announced. That would take the total growth announced within the last year to either 43 or 53 (depending on whether the latest rumor for 10 more is realized) - nearly doubling Mesa's fleet size from what it was a year ago.

 

[Raoul Duke]

which would create massively quick upgrade for those who jump laterally --- i.e. a Skyw FO with a 9 year upgrade trajectory could be a captain within 9 months at Mesa. That will probably fix any pilot shortage.

 

[N4niner206]

which would create massively quick upgrade for those who jump laterally --- i.e. a Skyw FO with a 9 year upgrade trajectory could be a captain within 9 months at Mesa. That will probably fix any pilot shortage.

Doubt it would go that quickly. Keep in mind that these airplanes will come online over a period of time, not all at once. There will still be at least 300 pilots eligible for upgrade before anyone that is hired today.

SkyWest upgrade isn't up to 9 years, is it? I thought it was a lot quicker than that.

 

[amcnd]

1/2007 junior RJ Captain upgrading right now.... (At OO)

 

[sniper]

For what its worth, you currently need about 7 years for upgrade. I think the predicted quick upgrades are due to the fact that Mesa has recently announced additional airplanes to nearly doubles its fleet size over the next couple of years. Those quick upgrades have not happened yet - as the new planes arrive, the longevity required will quickly drop. Bear in mind that just a year ago, the bottom FO on property was nearly at 6 years with the company.

Nine 900s have been delivered so far. 30 EMB175s coming, and 4 more 900s confirmed yesterday. Additional rumor (with some evidence that lends merit) for yet another 10 900s that have not been announced. That would take the total growth announced within the last year to either 43 or 53 (depending on whether the latest rumor for 10 more is realized) - nearly doubling Mesa's fleet size from what it was a year ago.

175s for Usair?

 

[IBNAV8R]

It's the new business model for regional feed. Have one regional partner to do the majority of flying. Then, have a token amount done by a bargain carrier just to keep the first in cost-check.

My speculation is this won't work for long as the "bargain" carriers won't have the pilots to compete.

 

[N4niner206]

175s for Usair?

Not that I know of - The 175s I was referring to are the ones Mesa is slated to operate for United. I suppose they're not part of the Mesa fleet, but for staffing purposes they are.

 

[rene]

Can you think of a better way to put cost preasure on SKW.... Just have Mesa through in a bid... They (Mesa) are behind on there E175 program. How would they get 200's back up and running again...

Why do you think Mesa is behind on the E 175 program?
Mesa already operates 200's.

Mesa will add 10 - additional CRJ 900's from May thru December of this year.