Mesa Wins the Triple Crown - This from 3/11/11 Aviation Daily

[Fltlvls]

JO can be replaced...The good old days are gone.

New BOD and JO is on probation. You heard that from me.

Mesa will be sold.

That would be the best thing to happen, not just for Mesa employees.

 

[sniper]

That would be the best thing to happen, not just for Mesa employees.[/QUOTE


It will be the best thing for Mesa Employees indeed.

FACT.....
Mesa's Scope was recognized during the BK by all parties and new owners.
Scope kept mesa from coming out as an independent outfit.

 

[Knob]

I thought mythbusters already proved that you could "polish a turd"

 

[sniper]

I thought mythbusters already proved that you could "polish a turd"

Is the turd Express Jet?

Then your management did good job and were able to sell you to Skywest

 

[rene]

Acars

Wait till acars is installed.

Acars is installed in all UAL aircraft, and almost done on Airways. I am curious to understand how ACARS will impact passenger complaints, or mishandled bags? These are the other metrics where Mesa's performance has improved.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

yea acars, that isn't hard to beat, close the door and drop the brake.

 

[Knob]

This is waaaay before your time...but we had jonathon here.and booted him out...guess we see where your roots are from eh?

 

[spitfire1500]

All those airlines you listed went into BK because of 911 and the economy. Mesa went under because of J.O. unable to run an airline properly.
And he is still at the helm.

PSA Lifer? Sure hope not.

Those airlines all went into BK because of mismanagement!!

 

[sniper]

This is waaaay before your time...but we had jonathon here.and booted him out...guess we see where your roots are from eh?

Not really before my time. I was at Florida Gulf when you had him. Your company was and is still a turd....do you remember PFT?

So, are you a PFT product of COEX then?

 

[Nevets]

Not really before my time. I was at Florida Gulf when you had him. Your company was and is still a turd....do you remember PFT?

So, are you a PFT product of COEX then?

Ya, the golden era only lasted about 4 years, 2005-2008.

 

[sniper]

Ya, the golden era only lasted about 4 years, 2005-2008.

For 4 years 1200 pilots paid 9000 dollars each to get hired and get paid 14 dollars per hour on the 1900.

 

[Nevets]

For 4 years 1200 pilots paid 9000 dollars each to get hired and get paid 14 dollars per hour on the 1900.

I thought it was 5 years, 1300 pilots paying $10k for $13/hr? Ya we got your point: turd then turd now. What was the point of your last post?

 

[sniper]

I thought it was 5 years, 1300 pilots paying $10k for $13/hr? Ya we got your point: turd then turd now. What was the point of your last post?

Ah you got it now. Coex blasting other pilot groups like Mesa all the time, however their s---t stink more....That is my point, so stop the Mesa bull----t and look at yourselves.....

I paid nothing and got 4 types out of Mesa......

 

[Nevets]

Ah you got it now. Coex blasting other pilot groups like Mesa all the time, however their s---t stink more....That is my point, so stop the Mesa bull----t and look at yourselves.....

I paid nothing and got 4 types out of Mesa......

I never blasted Mesa. I'm actually a big Mesa supporter. Back when the XJT MEC heard that DAL wanted to get rid of Mesa, there were rumblings that maybe XJT would get some of those aircraft and do some flying for DAL with them (we already had a CPA with DAL flying out of LAX at the time), I was a huge proponent of bringing their pilots to XJT with seniority and longevity. This was still in the golden age of XJT by the way.

Mesa pilots have done well considering who their CEO is.

I paid nothing also.

 

[sniper]

I never blasted Mesa. I'm actually a big Mesa supporter. Back when the XJT MEC heard that DAL wanted to get rid of Mesa, there were rumblings that maybe XJT would get some of those aircraft and do some flying for DAL with them (we already had a CPA with DAL flying out of LAX at the time), I was a huge proponent of bringing their pilots to XJT with seniority and longevity. This was still in the golden age of XJT by the way.

Mesa pilots have done well considering who their CEO is.


Best of luck, but Chris C your MEC chair did not tell you the whole thing about Mesa.

 

[Pukindog]

Oh, BTW because of high seniority Mesa has the highest paid pilots. It seems to me that many of you just want to live in the past.

But when a 15 year FO on those Mesa RJ earn less than a 2nd yr FO on some other US Air feeder... that math doesn't really work out.

 

[mesaserf]

Mesa F/O pay tops out at year 7, CA pay at year 20!

Wow.. Just a few more years and I'll be making the big bucks.

 

[ChinaClipper]

Thank Johnny....

while you couldn't get a day off to save your own life due to Mesa Incompetence, JO and the hunta were living it up in an Oahu beachfront mansion, all on YV's Dime....and blowing money in Various psuedo-Hedge Fund deals in China......is Peter the Peter Murnane still in charge of Corporate Manners? Stripper Pole installations? What a fine group of shysters....

 

[Taco Rocket]

while you couldn't get a day off to save your own life due to Mesa Incompetence, JO and the hunta were living it up in an Oahu beachfront mansion, all on YV's Dime....and blowing money in Various psuedo-Hedge Fund deals in China......is Peter the Peter Murnane still in charge of Corporate Manners? Stripper Pole installations? What a fine group of shysters....

Was that the guy who said he was surfing porn on the company computer?

 

[brokedash]

Was that the guy who said he was surfing porn on the company computer?

Yes, that was him.

 

[rene]

Ancient History

Yes, that was him.

Guys,

That was ancient history, you guys need to get with the times. Muname has been gone for 3 years, and Mesa is a different compan today. But a reputation is a difficult thing to change.

 

[go!ng for broke]

Guys,

That was ancient history, you guys need to get with the times. Muname has been gone for 3 years, and Mesa is a different compan today. But a reputation is a difficult thing to change.

Not so ancient history with Mesa. He is still going after the "Aloha Airlines" Trademark.

 

[brokedash]

Actually the court prevented Mesa from using the Aloha imagery/name. I think Aloha's old parent company wound up buying it.

 

[go!ng for broke]

Actually the court prevented Mesa from using the Aloha imagery/name. I think Aloha's old parent company wound up buying it.

Actually Yucaipa took it against money owed. They are under court order not to sell it to mesa but you know..

Mesa almost had it in 2009 but the judge reversed a public sale after mesa and Yucaipa attorneys closed the doors on a hnl newspaper reporter...

History is still being written.

 

[rene]

Two years ago is still ancient in the airline biz

Actually Yucaipa took it against money owed. They are under court order not to sell it to mesa but you know..

Mesa almost had it in 2009 but the judge reversed a public sale after mesa and Yucaipa attorneys closed the doors on a hnl newspaper reporter...

History is still being written.

Mesa has come a long long way in two years, why do you persist in bringing up the past.

 

[brokedash]

Mesa has come a long long way in two years, why do you persist in bringing up the past.

Because if you don't remember history it will repeat itself.

 

[Taco Rocket]

Mesa has come a long long way in two years, why do you persist in bringing up the past.

I'm not a Mesa hata'.... I just consider myself a realist. The company has many -- if not most -- of the same people in key positions, has pissed off most major "partner" airlines in the country, and is at the mercy of Doug Parker... how is this a bright future?

 

[ChinaClipper]

S.E.C vs Jonathan G. Ornstein (1992) Ironic how this dumas drove it all into the ground, fleeced it for all he could is now PART OWNER of the New Mesa? Life is fair.....

 

[go!ng for broke]

Guys,

That was ancient history, you guys need to get with the times. Muname has been gone for 3 years, and Mesa is a different compan today. But a reputation is a difficult thing to change.

You say mesa is a different place. I say this place is different after MESA.

Aloha!

 

[Poahi]

Actually Yucaipa took it against money owed. They are under court order not to sell it to mesa but you know..

Mesa almost had it in 2009 but the judge reversed a public sale after mesa and Yucaipa attorneys closed the doors on a hnl newspaper reporter...

History is still being written.

Had JO just waited a few days before announcing the deal with Yucaipa, the sale would have gone through. His haste is what got him in trouble, twice.