Mesa to furlough approximately 150

[labbats]

Hey look a Mesa thread got derailed! Weird!

My best to anyone going under any furlough anywhere.

 

[PCL_128]

I hope not.

We had a bad enough ride with jimmy carter the first time.

Funny, I'm already experiencing the Jimmy Carter years. I sat in a gas line in Atlanta today for 20 minutes after driving around for a half hour looking for a station that even has gas at all. Of the few stations that have gas, many are rationing it at 6 gallons per person. We've been experiencing a gas shortage down south for the past week now. I'm betting that Dubya isn't even aware of it, much less cares.

And how 'bout the rest of the economy? Unemployment has skyrocketed to over 6%. It was 4% under Clinton. The average household income has dropped by $1,000 per year during the Bush administration. It went up under Clinton. Banks are collapsing left and right, and we're bailing out insurance giants. We're about to spend $700 billion to save ourselves from the housing collapse.

So, tell me again who's ushering in the Carter years all over again?

 

[ubpilot]

Yup....just as expected. Mesa will furlough approx 150 pilots and also offering voluntary LOAs for 1 year.

Where and when did you hear this?

 

[Hobit]

Funny, I'm already experiencing the Jimmy Carter years. I sat in a gas line in Atlanta today for 20 minutes after driving around for a half hour looking for a station that even has gas at all. Of the few stations that have gas, many are rationing it at 6 gallons per person. We've been experiencing a gas shortage down south for the past week now. I'm betting that Dubya isn't even aware of it, much less cares.

And how 'bout the rest of the economy? Unemployment has skyrocketed to over 6%. It was 4% under Clinton. The average household income has dropped by $1,000 per year during the Bush administration. It went up under Clinton. Banks are collapsing left and right, and we're bailing out insurance giants. We're about to spend $700 billion to save ourselves from the housing collapse.

So, tell me again who's ushering in the Carter years all over again?

I did not read more than a few words of your post because I you are so hung up on W that you can't think into the future.

And when did I say W was a conservative?!

Oh yeah... Are you aware that W isn't running this time?

I wish you coo-coo crazy liberals hadn't hijacked the dems.

Whatever, go away thinking you're right and I'll do the same.

 

[Long Time Gone]

Just don't forget who has control over the House and Senate. They make the laws, the President doesn't.

 

[Ezralite]

Just don't forget who has control over the House and Senate. They make the laws, the President doesn't.

Wow, thanks for that tidbit of constitutional wisdom. Did you just finish watching "I'm Just a Bill" on Schoolhouse Rock?

 

[PA31Driver]

Where and when did you hear this?

Email from the COO this afternoon. I didn't want to post company email on here.

 

[fastback]

And how 'bout the rest of the economy? Unemployment has skyrocketed to over 6%. It was 4% under Clinton. The average household income has dropped by $1,000 per year during the Bush administration. It went up under Clinton. Banks are collapsing left and right, and we're bailing out insurance giants. We're about to spend $700 billion to save ourselves from the housing collapse.

So, tell me again who's ushering in the Carter years all over again?

Average unemployment under 8 years of Clinton was 5.2%. Average unemployment under 7 years of Bush was 5.2%. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/histinc/h11AR.html

Median household income under Bush has increased by $778 adjusted for inflation. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/histinc/h11AR.html

Not happy about our gov't bailing out our economy? Neither am I - I believe it is not within the government's constitutional powers to do so. But for all the talk you hear about corporate greed and deregulation causing this mess, it was gov't intervention in the form of the Community Reinvestment Act that seeded this whole crisis in the first place. I get tired of hearing about the "failed economic policies of GWB" from people who can't name one. And I never voted for the guy!

 

[PCL_128]

Average unemployment under 8 years of Clinton was 5.2%. Average unemployment under 7 years of Bush was 5.2%. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/histinc/h11AR.html

The average doesn't matter. What matters is how things look after 8 years of his policies. In the last month of Clinton's administration, unemployment was at 3.9%. It dropped steadily and consistently during his administration, thanks to his economic policies that led to surpluses and consumer confidence. After 8 years of Bush, it's now at 6.1%. The numbers speak for themselves.

Median household income under Bush has increased by $778 adjusted for inflation. http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/histinc/h11AR.html

This is only true if you count retired families. If you look at working families, the real measure of economic policy, it's down by over $1,000.

 

[Caspian27]

PCL,

Why would the average number not matter if, "The numbers speak for themselves?"

In the last month of a presidency, a president can do very little real influence due to being a lame-duck.

 

[PCL_128]

PCL,

Why would the average number not matter if, "The numbers speak for themselves?"

In the last month of a presidency, a president can do very little real influence due to being a lame-duck.

Because the average number includes the first few years in which his policies haven't taken effect yet. It's the same reason that I don't blame Bush 41 for the bad economy during his administration. Economic policy takes a few years to show an impact. Watching the trend over the entire length of an administration gives a much better picture.

 

[BigLebowski]

That's President Obama. Get used to saying it.

haha...we'll leave that title to the experienced ones.

 

[General Lee]

I hope not.

We had a bad enough ride with jimmy carter the first time.

Click here: YouTube - Palin / Couric: The Israel Question

Click here: YouTube - Palin On Foreign Policy


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[DoinTime]

Click here: YouTube - Palin / Couric: The Israel Question

Click here: YouTube - Palin On Foreign Policy


Bye Bye--General Lee

I didn't think I'd ever see someone as dumb as Dan Qualye ever get into office again but the Repub's are making a run at a repeat performance.

 

[Nevets]

How far do the furloughs go?

Just curious, why do people seem to always ask this? Someone said that it goes back to a DOH of Jan 08 but 150 furloughs at another airline may mean a DOH of Jan 98. So why does it matter "how far" the furloughs go? Why isn't the total number of furloughs enough informations? Just curious.