Mesa to furlough approximately 150

[atpcliff]

Hi!

10nCLR:
You forgot this:
Reagan:

the Battle of Beruit; Marine Barracks bombed, and lots of US Marines died, all televised. Reagan's response was to withdraw from Beruit and use less soldiers for conflicts. Huh? Um the US backed away from being attacked and humiliated. Bush would have set them straight. Today Lebenon is a lawless country and a hot bed for terrorist groups.

fastback:

Our economy would still be strong were it not for the rise in oil and this aberration in our credit system. Neither can be reasonably blamed on Bush.

Yes they CAN!!!

The reason for the rise in oil prices are two-fold: First, there is the Iraq War, which will now cost at least $3 TRILLION dollars. The Iraq War, along with Bush's dramatic expansion of our Federal Government has led to record deficits, which has lowered the value of the dollar-and oil is priced in dollars.
Secondly, Bush, with a Republican Congress for most of the last 7 years, has done absolutely NOTHING to get our economy onto renewable fuels, which would enable us to stop buying foreign oil.
The Economic Collapse, has come largely from a failure of our markets to regulate themselves. Bush and company (along with some help from the Democrats), has cut back the oversight, or never instituted the oversight, to prevent various individuals and organizations from making $ decisions that have been very, very bad in the long term. May persons want a short-term profit, and have ignored anything else, and were allowed to by the Feds.
Now Bush has been forced to Socialize a large part of our economy.

cliff
GRB

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Sorry ATP and PCL but your facts are way off. Try reading something before you spew off CNN's lead-in here. I'm no fan of W and his Constitutional shredding. However, facts are facts and W can't be blamed for the current mess.

Read this.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75717

 

[Soverytired]

That's President Obama. Get used to saying it.

Nah. I watched the debate last night. Obama likes to call folks by their first names, apparently. When he can remember them, anyway. Otherwise, he just makes one up and muddles along. (To be fair, it is hard to remember the name of the ONLY OTHER GUY on the stage with you. You know . . the one you served a whole 147 days in the Senate with?).

He's not big on titles, apparently. So that's cool . . very gen X and gen Y of him.

I'll follow his example and refer to him by whatever name springs to mind (sans title) while giving him the "secret" finger while scratching my head. If he can do it, so can I, eh?

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I don't watch CNN at all. I actually get the majority of my TV news from Fox News.
Cliff
GRB

 

[Soverytired]

Tough break, Mesa folks. It's unfortunate that those of you being furloughed are probably the ones with the least time who will have the hardest time finding new jobs due to low total flight experience.

Nevertheless, take heart from the fact that every pilot who has ever left Mesa has never to my knowledge regretted it. Despite what you read here, your next employer won't care about Mesa . . . they WILL care about the valuable Part 121 90 seat CRJ jet experience you have under your belt.

For what it's worth, airlinepilotcentral.com has a great article on "what to do if you're furloughed", and I'd highly recommend it. Don't screw around . . get your stuff out, don't be picky, and if you can fly internationally, go out there and make more money than most of the FO's in their first 3-4 years at the legacy carriers.

A great motto from the British SAS:

"Who dares, wins".

Get that resume updated and sent out. You might be surprised who bites! There's still plenty of great flying jobs out there, but you're going to have to do some serious legwork to get 'em.

 

[PCL_128]

Actually, if you want to look at it that way, they started to increase dramatically in the final months. In the months after him leaving office they climbed back into the 4s and 5s. Or does the effect stop the day they leave office?

Unemployment stayed in the 4s until after 9/11, when it climbed into the 5s temporarily. Obviously, 9/11 changed everything. Neither Bush nor Clinton can be blamed for the economic issues after 9/11.

 

[CX880]

MESA SUCKS

 

[Salukipilot4590]

...And not to be too late with this....

Tonight's worst person in the world award goes to rockit85 for his unhumorous attempt to be a tough guy whixh backfired, making him look like an a$$hole.

Tonight..... rockit85...

worst
PERSON
in the
WORLDDDDDDDDDD.....

 

[relief tube]

Yup....just as expected. Mesa will furlough approx 150 pilots and also offering voluntary LOAs for 1 year.

won't they make just about as much money on unemployment as they did at lowly mesa?

and going from 8 days off a month to this, they'll be so happy they won't know what to do with themselves.

 

[Gnarloooo]

Click here: YouTube - Palin / Couric: The Israel Question

Click here: YouTube - Palin On Foreign Policy


Bye Bye--General Lee

Holy God. Say what you want about McCain or Obama, but that lady is a lunatic. Period.

 

[lindsaya99]

First, there is the Iraq War, which will now cost at least $3 TRILLION dollars.

Where did you get a number like that? Last figure I saw was $515 Billion. I'm not saying that is small potatoes but $3 Trillion is more that three times the total DOD budget for FY 2008.

 

[PCL_128]

$1 trillion is the generally accepted number for the all-in cost even if we were to start withdrawing right now. I don't know where he got $3 trillion from, but I doubt we'll get out with less than $1.5 trillion unless a withdrawal is begun almost immediately after the next president takes office.

 

[EMcx2]

Common let's focus on those wonderful people at MESA getting furloughed.....They are getting what they deserve. In February when MESA ceases to exist the rest of the bottom feeders at MESA will get their just reward.

 

[Flip]

Common let's focus on those wonderful people at MESA getting furloughed.....They are getting what they deserve. In February when MESA ceases to exist the rest of the bottom feeders at MESA will get their just reward.

Get back to the desk!!!

 

[goodpilotithink]

Funny, I'm already experiencing the Jimmy Carter years. I sat in a gas line in Atlanta today for 20 minutes after driving around for a half hour looking for a station that even has gas at all. Of the few stations that have gas, many are rationing it at 6 gallons per person. We've been experiencing a gas shortage down south for the past week now. I'm betting that Dubya isn't even aware of it, much less cares.

And how 'bout the rest of the economy? Unemployment has skyrocketed to over 6%. It was 4% under Clinton. The average household income has dropped by $1,000 per year during the Bush administration. It went up under Clinton. Banks are collapsing left and right, and we're bailing out insurance giants. We're about to spend $700 billion to save ourselves from the housing collapse.

So, tell me again who's ushering in the Carter years all over again?

It IS hard to Govern with a bunch of left wing commy lunes controlling Congress. I'm glad you pointed that out for every one.......Clinton had a Republican Congress keeping him in check. That is the diff....

 

[ohplease!]

What a tool.

if that ain't the pot callling the kettle black.............

 

[ohplease!]

That's President Obama. Get used to saying it.

I sincerely hope he does win. Nothing could do more for the future of our country than to have someone elected who could not possibly be less qualified than Obama.

If you can get someone elected on no more than the fact that he is black, you deserve what you get.

In the mean time, I'm going to pack up the family and the guns and move back to the hills of the GREAT state of Tennessee.

After 4 years of Obama, Congress AND the Whitehouse will be republican for the forseeable future.

Cheers.:beer:

 

[Soverytired]

The average doesn't matter. What matters is how things look after 8 years of his policies. In the last month of Clinton's administration, unemployment was at 3.9%. It dropped steadily and consistently during his administration, thanks to his economic policies that led to surpluses and consumer confidence. After 8 years of Bush, it's now at 6.1%. The numbers speak for themselves.
.

1. Prior to the 1990's, anything under 5% unemployment was considered "full employment", and was generally considered undesirable. Why? Inflationary wage pressure.

This particular situation was contained primarily due to massive amounts of illegal immigration and a huge underground economy . . both under Bush and Clinton. Without it, wages would have undoubtedly risen, but growth would have stalled out. I leave it to you to decide if this is good or bad.

2. Historically, 6.1% unemployment isn't much to sneeze at either . . . most Western nations would KILL to have unemployment numbers so low, as would the rest of the world.

Nevertheless . . .33% of Americans now think the US is in a DEPRESSION! No doubt all of them are Obama supporters . . that said, I find it appalling the amount of rank ignorance among the voters who simply don't know that they're living in the richest country on the planet.
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8 years of "Bush policies"? We don't have a king in the US, last time I checked. Bush has been unable to pass any significant legislation for the past 6; everything has been effectively blocked by the Democratic party, who then points the finger at Bush for the resulting train wreck. Their goal for 6 years has been to win the Presidency at all costs, and damn the American people.

What goes around, comes around though. Get ready for 4 years of Republicans blocking every single bill, every single appointment, and generally cutting Obama off at the knees . . .which will be all be blamed on Obama because in the popular mind, he's "in charge".

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

Click here: YouTube - Palin / Couric: The Israel Question

Click here: YouTube - Palin On Foreign Policy


Bye Bye--General Lee

"Are we ready for a black president? Hell ya, we just had a retard as one." Chris Rock

Imagine if Palin and Bush were to concieve. Just imagine.

 

[Gnarloooo]

I sincerely hope he does win. Nothing could do more for the future of our country than to have someone elected who could not possibly be less qualified than Obama.

If you can get someone elected on no more than the fact that he is black, you deserve what you get.

In the mean time, I'm going to pack up the family and the guns and move back to the hills of the GREAT state of Tennessee.

After 4 years of Obama, Congress AND the Whitehouse will be republican for the forseeable future.

Cheers.:beer:

NEWSFLASH! This just in....the Civil War is over. You lost.