350DRIVER said:
Pick"a"l-
How fu$kin comical you are. You have got to be smokin some good stuff if you honestly believe that.. It is more than just the "pilot group".. What do you think the "prospects" are for the company (ACA) short and long term.??
take the blinders off
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Well my friend... please copy this statement to your harddrive and look back upon it every year or two. THE PROSPECTS NOW ARE MUCH BRIGHTER THAN THEY ARE WITH UAL AT THE HELM.
I am tired of trying to "educate" all my friends at other airlines about what's going on (including you.) From an outsider's perspective it might look like tough times ahead for ACA. But from the inside, we have all the core strengths to make it a go alone (instant planes, gates, people, and money -lots more than MAG or J.O.) Right now the reason nothing is seen as getting done, is that our hands are tied by the 800lb gorilla in BK Court. Why do you think that's so??? How about if we cut UA loose tomorrow, how long do you think it would take UA to recover? It could quite possibly push them over, hence the BK judge not allowing it. To your previous post that we "lost" the UA contract.... well if you believe that then I dont want to waste any more time with you (Stupid Is Stupid Does.)
If you look at ACA history, we have always been a strategic innovator. One of the first to get RJs (even before UA scope was relaxed). One of the first to have a fee-per-departure agreement. The list goes on. I am not trying to brag or flame, merely to say that our executive management has always seemed to be a step ahead of our industry. I have my beefs with our company as well, but those are mostly tactical and not strategic. It is this forward vision and the notion of controlling our destiny, and not being tied to a sinking ship, which provides the motivation for our company's new venture. As our mgmt has stated before in many public documents, the downside risk between re-inking with UA and starting Goldilox is about the same, the upside reward of Goldilox far outweighs the "8% guaranteed margin" that MAG or a new UA deal would provide. So after all due diligence is done, and that is the case, why would anyone in this position want to loose control of their operations to UA????
The best way to sum up our predicament is that if Goldilox takes off then we(the company and shareholders) get paid a handsome reward. If it fails, then we flounder around a while and eventually link up with another carrier to provide feed once again, since we have the "instant critical mass." Maybe then we'll think about a joint venture between MAG.
Tailwinds....
Pappy
ps: to Mr. BLOOM... I second your motion. I consider ACA's QOL the minimum for holding a decent job in these times. And if it comes down to it, you will not see me settling for anything less. There are many other options to make a good living, I for one will not drag down this industry any further.
pps: as to CHINACLIPPER... When I joined the company, we had not started the RJ revolution yet. When it came, and I flew to places like MOB where the only planes on the ramp were RJs, then I knew that we (collectively as ALL ariline pilots) had screwed the pooch and let the RJs create a systemwide B-scale all over again. As for our WHORING ourselves out, please remember that all pilots are WHORES... its just a matter of price. To take it a step further, in no way will I match match MESA's price on my QOL so I will gladly bow out before we get shafted like CCAir did. Just reference my above agreement with BLOOM. Good luck fighting over the cheap johns my friend......
Bottom line is ACA is fu$ked without UAL and without Mesa they will even be more fu$ked and will have to continue to furlough. Why not open your fu$kin eyes and wake up and realize that Mesa did nothing but improve job security, growth potential, etc, etc, .... You people that bash them should take a long hard look in the mirror.. Bottom line is that if ya don't like em then stay the fu$k away and don't apply... Very very simple solution that most should be able to grasp.
