MESA pilots response to proposal

[ChinaClipper]

Oh god...

Not the "whoreing " line of BS again. If you are flying RJ's today, you are doing so at some mainline pilots current, and everyone's FUTURE, chances of moving on. Hate to sound like a broken record, but flying an RJ on a former mainline route id WHOREING. So is PFT, PFT is for rich kids and people who don't pay dues, Oddly enough Mesa was NEVER PFT. Comair? Usta be "bring cash, get job!" ACA, same thing. Pinnacle? Same thing! And nauseum....BTW Ya get get higher pay to payoff those you got yer job from. So yer realyy just breaking even after a few years after debt and interest. Please say this really isn't the case? I coulda hade a job at a LOT of PFT carriers in the late 90's, but even if I HAD the cash, I wouldn't have PAID for my job.....Again, if Mesa "started the plunge to the bottom, why didn't those who took CUTS stand up then instaed of on this board??? Makes ya wonder...

 

[Herman Bloom]

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I'm not gonna try to bash you here, but I will watch your posts with eagerness over the course of the next year or so (assuming you do indeed move on to Mesa). I can all but gaurantee that you'll be singing a VERY different tune once you get a taste of life at a regional. Take it from someone who knows...it looks a whole lot better from the outside. And I work for a company whose contract is considered among the top two or three in the "regional industry".

We'll see how you like it.

 

[Rottweiller]

Re: Oh god...

Hate to sound like a broken record, but flying an RJ on a former mainline route id WHOREING.

No, just making that route profitable rather than flying a half full guppy a couple of times a day way below the break even load factor. Also it allows for more frequency between 2 points with a full, or at least above break even load factors.

Simple economics.

 

[T-Gates]

stupidity is always comical

You have shown us all that this is a very true statement. Have fun flying at Mesa with the blinders on pal......

 

[Beantown]

1. I don't understand why when Mesa Mgmt makes a move like this everyone immediately goes after the Mesa Pilots. The Mesa pilots have no say on this and only want the best of all other pilots including ACA. I hope if this thing goes through that the Mesa pilots and the ACA pilots are able to stand strong and force JO to take a combined list (DOH) and the best of both contracts. It will take a serious stand to make that happen but if we stand together it can happen.

2. CCair got screwed by JO's whipsawing tactics but the Mesa pilots stuck by the us and were willing to give up not only seniority, but a work-rule or two in there contract (which sucked for that reason and to get the scope that got rid of Freedumb) to make sure we were all rehired at mesa. They didn't have to do it and they gave up a lot for us. I've been on line at Mesa for 6 weeks and haven't meet one person I haven't liked or respected. The line pilots at Mesa are just like the rust of us. They want to do there jobs, do it safely, do it on time, and go home to there families.
The fight needs to be with JO and his cronies. All the negativity towards the Mesa pilots only makes them feel isolated, pushing them closer and inevitably closer to Mgmt. "They all hate us so Fu*k um" will become the norm at Mesa if the attitudes of people like "pickle" or "rjpilot" become the long term norm in the industry. We need to stand together and win this battle.


3. That said, being a former CCair pilot I feel for the ACA pilots and I hope this thing falls through. That would be the best result for everyone. Trust me. If this goes through, JO will play hard ball with ACA, with the Mesa scope (which cost them A LOT in their contract, lets hope ALPA wrote it well). It will be a long and tiresome battle. One I personally am not looking forward to. (I just finished 3 years of it). Fly safe. -Bean GO SOX!!!!!!! Yanks SUCK!!!!

ps- This post is not meant as any type of "flame". Just trying to tell it like it is and make sure everyone understands that all the "bashing" that goes on at this website does nothing to help solve the problems that people are so upset about.