Mesa pilots in PHX with plywood boards?

[Rally]

Is'nt it cheaper to get a hotel rather than run the APU? How many PPH does the APU burn?

 

[siucavflight]

Is'nt it cheaper to get a hotel rather than run the APU? How many PPH does the APU burn?

probably between 120-160, but I doubt that they let them run the APU!

 

[Espalda Mojado]

Well... you can disagree but I think ExpressJet is a pretty great company. I am not a kid, I am 37, I have worked for a variety of companies and I would say xjet is pretty well run.... I agree we should stick together and hold the line on lower wages. All you young folks with Shiny Jet Syndrome please don't sell yourselves short.

Hahaha, 37 yrs old and flying an RJ with no ATP? Pathetic.

 

[n757st]

Hahaha, 37 yrs old and flying an RJ with no ATP? Pathetic.

If only we were all as cool as you.

 

[JohnnyP]

....

Hahaha, 37 yrs old and flying an RJ with no ATP? Pathetic.

Get back to mowing my lawn, you missed a spot around the hedges.

 

[RP170]

Get back to mowing my lawn, you missed a spot around the hedges.

Priceless!

 

[ballsdeep123]

Hahaha, 37 yrs old and flying an RJ with no ATP? Pathetic.

Yeah and now that you're done stealing all of mainlines jobs, you'll probably be 60 flying a 90 seater around for 50 bucks an hour. Congratulations!

 

[rickair7777]

Hahaha, 37 yrs old and flying an RJ with no ATP? Pathetic.

3500 hours in a B737...hmmm.

And I suppose you expect us to believe that you got that job on your own merits as opposed to your affirmitive action ticket? Yeah, right.

 

[Espalda Mojado]

Yeah and now that you're done stealing all of mainlines jobs, you'll probably be 60 flying a 90 seater around for 50 bucks an hour. Congratulations!

Not likely, now that I'm 27 and upgrading on the 737 within a year. Enjoy your RJ, it is a cool little plane to fly.

 

[Espalda Mojado]

3500 hours in a B737...hmmm.

And I suppose you expect us to believe that you got that job on your own merits as opposed to your affirmitive action ticket? Yeah, right.

I admit, I got a full-ride scholarship for hispanic flight students, and a B737 type from a government grant for minorities, to help get me land my Boeing job. I love this country. I am thinking of helping out some RJ FOs by paying them to do some landscaping work at my new house in Miami, if anybody is interested send me a PM. It will pay more than your flying job.

 

[Inconceivable]

Fyi that is the type of pairing that was implicated in the FDX TLH B727 accident a few years ago.

I believe they do not build red-eye +1 trips anymore, let alone +3!

 

[Lear70]

This has got to stop somewhere. I'll admit, I slept in the airplane ONCE at PCL... of my own volition, simply because we were 2 hours late on a 6:05 CDO and the hotel was 15 minutes each way.

By staying on the plane I got a little over 3 hours sleep, the rest of the crew that went to the hotel got just over an hour. Not that one is all that better rested than the other, but I'll take what I can get.

EVEN THEN, I knew it was border-line unsafe and that was with JUST 2 LEGS with a week of CDO pairings. I was well into the sleep rhythm, but still tired every morning returning to DTW. THEN they tried to start front-loading CDO's with turns (or back-loading them) and guess what...?

CAPTAINS STARTED CALLING IN FATIGUED IN DROVES!!! This was the fall/winter of 2004 if anyone on here remembers that lovely 3 month period at the bottom of the seniority list.

We all discussed it in ops and over beers and the message boards and private emails and basically challenged each other to call in fatigued as it was warranted.

The company couldn't staff and finally got the hint. The front- and back-loaded CDO's went away.

YOUR pilots could do the same thing. I don't give a rat's a*s if you want to call it an illegal job action or not, there is NO recourse if you call in fatigue, THEY CAN'T TOUCH YOU.

So yes, you CAN make a stand on this issue. Right here, right now. Without recrimination or termination or disciplinary action. The bonus side: the more of you that do it and it becomes public, the more of you might be willing to do the same thing. Eventually it will have its desired effect.

Regardless, don't fly fatigued! That's just about the most unprofessional thing you can ever do, next to doing drugs or alcohol before flight.

 

[ultrarunner]

Excellent post Lear! And very well said.

The FAA continues to skirt the fatigue issue so it is left up to us, as pilots, to do the right thing.

You're either fit for flight or you're not.

 

[BOOMER2]

I admit, I got a full-ride scholarship for hispanic flight students, and a B737 type from a government grant for minorities, to help get me land my Boeing job. I love this country. I am thinking of helping out some RJ FOs by paying them to do some landscaping work at my new house in Miami, if anybody is interested send me a PM. It will pay more than your flying job.

Glad to see my tax dollars at work for you Paco! I bet you didn't have to go through any water survival training, already an expert at that! I'm just glad you can type some English.
You had mentioned having some of us RJ folks over to take care of your yard; won't that p!ss off your relatives??

 

[ballsdeep123]

Glad to see my tax dollars at work for you Paco! I bet you didn't have to go through any water survival training, already an expert at that! I'm just glad you can type some English.
You had mentioned having some of us RJ folks over to take care of your yard; won't that p!ss off your relatives??

Now that is funny! What an unappreciative piece of sh!t.